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Old 14th August 2015, 10:56     #1
Cyberbob
 
USA Presidential Election 2016 Hype Train

Trump '16.

Discuss.
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Old 14th August 2015, 11:00     #2
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...he-nomination/

Not yet, thank fuck. But hey, it is America and Hillary is tanking atm. Nothing would surprise.
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Old 14th August 2015, 11:18     #3
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Trump '16.

Discuss.
Trump Vs Sanders
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Old 14th August 2015, 12:59     #4
Ab
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It's a conspiracy

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...lag-candidate/

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Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It’s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump’s pronouncements—the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric—sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant’s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.
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Old 14th August 2015, 13:01     #5
blynk
 
I see. Its a long con. One that they startd 40 years ago and its all coming to ahead for this election.
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Old 14th August 2015, 15:10     #6
Lightspeed
 
Bernie Sanders tops New York Times search for last day, week and month:
http://www.nytimes.com/most-popular-searched?period=1
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Old 14th August 2015, 16:49     #7
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I love what Trump is doing. All the other robot candidates do whatever their sugar daddies want them to do, and spend their time asking for donations.

Trump doesn't have to do any of that shit, can fund his entire campaign, and has probably given more money to the other candidates in the past than most people.

Money buys politicians, and he's totally open about it. He'd be a horrible president, but he's shaking up the system from within the GOP and that's not a bad thing.

He wouldn't win the primary, but is making the other "legitimate" GOP candidates look like pussies and robots in front of their key voters.
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Old 14th August 2015, 17:49     #8
blynk
 
Yeah, but it's staggering that he can make certain comments and his popularity goes up.
I know it means nothing when it comes to the actual voting, but I worry about the mind set of some in the US
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Old 14th August 2015, 18:52     #9
fixed_truth
 
Republicans choose Trump - they lose.
Republicans don't choose Trump, he runs as an independent - they still lose.
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Old 14th August 2015, 22:07     #10
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My bet is his support will quickly drop when he's not selected in the primary.

I think popular support is with Democrats regardless, but who knows how that'll turn out when churned through the Electoral College.
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Old 14th August 2015, 22:34     #11
Ab
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I think popular support is with Democrats regardless, but who knows how that'll turn out when churned through the Electoral College.
explain?
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Old 15th August 2015, 09:58     #12
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...he-nomination/

Not yet, thank fuck. But hey, it is America and Hillary is tanking atm. Nothing would surprise.
Also from Nate Silver: Donald Trump’s Six Stages Of Doom in which he reckons that Trump has about a 2 percent chance of wining the nomination. Nate Silver is good at this shit.
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Old 19th August 2015, 00:48     #13
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explain?
It may be my information bubble, but that's my sense from the left leaning trends that have some popular support at the moment. Various social justice movements, cannabis reform, anti-gun movements gaining more support, that sort of stuff. And the right leaning stuff is getting more and more extreme, which is really popular with some but surely unpalatable to the center.
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Old 19th August 2015, 12:12     #14
Ab
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But what does that have to do with how the Electoral College votes?
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Old 19th August 2015, 12:21     #15
Lightspeed
 
This.
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Old 19th August 2015, 13:31     #16
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But none of those instances represent the Electoral College going against "popular support".
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Old 19th August 2015, 13:35     #17
Lightspeed
 
I don't know what you mean by that. I'm guessing you somehow differentiate between "popular support" and "popular vote". I didn't mean anything so sophisticated.
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Old 19th August 2015, 16:47     #18
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Yeah, I think it's a confusion of words? or levels of voting.

Each electoral college is like voting in NZ. The winner is the one with the most votes, but that person ends up with 100% of the votes available for that state. And because the US is effectively a 2 nomination election, then it stands to reason that whoever has the popular support in a state, will win those votes. *

But because they get 100% of the votes, then that can me nationally they can win without getting the popular vote.

(Assuming every states were identical) Democrats could win 24 states with a 99% to 1% majority, and Republicans could with 26 states with 51%-49% majority. So Republicans win with only 37% of the peoples vote.

Then add into the mix that states are different sizes, with California having 55 votes and texas having 38, and others only having 3 or 4. It could be possible for someone to win with only 20% of the peoples vote.

*Obviously if there is a third nominee then its possible that the one side wins a college but the state favours the other side
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Old 20th August 2015, 21:14     #19
fixed_truth
 
Laugh

'Deez Nuts' trails Trump, Clinton in North Carolina

http://www.abc2news.com/news/politic...north-carolina
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Old 2nd September 2015, 18:31     #20
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More Bernie Sanders.
Sounds like a good guy for the job.

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Old 3rd September 2015, 07:17     #21
fixed_truth
 
Go The Donald!
http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2015/09/go-the-donald/
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Old 16th December 2015, 15:33     #22
Deadmeat
 
Current republican debate is focused on "keeping america safe", the crazy cream is really rising to the top with this one.

"we need to stop anyone who hates us from using OUR internet" - Trump

"I wouldn't carpet bomb a city, i'd just carpet bomb where ISIS is" - Cruz
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Old 16th December 2015, 22:00     #23
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Trump is a moron, but it concerns me that a number of people in the US think he speaks to them and says what they're thinking.
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Old 16th December 2015, 22:10     #24
CCS
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Wink

Big population, lots of morons. Proportionately.
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Old 17th December 2015, 13:39     #25
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Trump is a moron, but it concerns me that a number of people in the US think he speaks to them and says what they're thinking.
A great proportion in the US are so overwhelmed by economic circumstances that there isn't really any time in the day to critically consider politics. Which is great for politicians like Trump for grabbing attention with simple, base rhetoric.
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Old 17th December 2015, 17:37     #26
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...151203?page=11
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Old 11th January 2016, 15:19     #27
Cyberbob
 
New Poll out of Iowa for the Dem race.

Clinton 48
Sanders 45
O'Malley 5
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Old 11th January 2016, 16:16     #28
blynk
 
I think Sanders needs to win Iowa or New Hampshire to have a chance.
If not, then he wont get enough coverage & publicity to catch back up.
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Old 11th January 2016, 16:48     #29
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Old 11th January 2016, 18:55     #30
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Old 12th January 2016, 14:18     #31
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
I think Hillary is an amoral robot who will tell any lie without a second thought and who will then lie about lying the first lie.
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Old 12th January 2016, 16:03     #32
blynk
 
Sounds like most of the republicans as well.
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Old 12th January 2016, 16:51     #33
Ab
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Yeah, but unlike the Republican candidates Hillary is also intelligent, experienced, and sane.
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Old 12th January 2016, 17:01     #34
ZoSo
 
Trump being cockblocked and Hillary indicted, would be pretty funny. Cruz v Bern, for extra wtf.
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Old 13th January 2016, 09:25     #35
Cyberbob
 
Cruz wasn't born in the USA, where's his birth certificate, man!
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Old 13th January 2016, 13:26     #36
Ab
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It's not entirely a joke - Cruz has powerful enemies in Congress (read: everyone) who are going to offer no cover whatsoever when eligibility questions are asked.
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Old 19th January 2016, 11:47     #37
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Old 20th January 2016, 13:28     #38
Ab
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wrap it up Cruzailures

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/20/us...id=tw-bna&_r=0

Sarah Palin Endorses Donald Trump, Rallying Conservatives



This is fucking INSANE

-ly great entertainment.
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Old 20th January 2016, 13:32     #39
Lightspeed
 
Radioactive

It's a thing of terrifying beauty.
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Old 20th January 2016, 13:54     #40
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TRUMP-PALIN 2016

whaddya reckon? Is it the End Times?
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