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^^ that's it (@pxpx).
It's kinda sad people don't get that. Buy I guess this uninformed group is who Key is targeting with his 'but they're baddies who cares what happens to them' line.
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11th November 2015, 13:42 | #42 |
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Well even if I said I thought the australians were utter cunts and it's a disgrace what's being done, it would be lost on you, cause you couldn't possibly hold that view and still have a laugh at little's comment based on the current circumstances and roll your eyes at the framing of these guys as just downtrodden on their luck cuzzy bros.
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11th November 2015, 15:35 | #46 |
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11th November 2015, 15:51 | #49 |
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Key standing his ground - John Key says he didn't go too far with 'backing rapist' comment
Little making a big (risky?) move - Little to front for expats in Oz
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11th November 2015, 15:53 | #50 | |
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I would have thought criminals of that nature, would slow down the process somewhat then, no? |
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11th November 2015, 16:08 | #52 |
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Fair? We're talking about the Australian Dept of Immigration. I don't think "fair" is in their mission statement.
If I were a cynical type I'd suggest that the Dept of Immigration had placed the ex-crim NZ citizens there on Christmas Island deliberately. Because having a bunch of big ugly Maoris with criminal records in detention is awfully hard for bleeding-heart white liberal Australia to get upset about, and now it's the big ugly Maoris with criminal records that everyone's talking about - not the legitimate refugees fleeing war and persecution who are also in detention. What's that you say, there are women and children being raped in these concentration camps that's fucking horri--OOGA BOOGA BIG UGLY MAORIS WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS OOGA BOOGA BIG UGLY MAORIS WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS, yeah keep those fuckers locked up sorry what were we talking about? |
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So if Key is guided by 'Crosby' on this one (hilarious that shit is still a talking point), who are the dark arts behind Little's well staged entry?
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11th November 2015, 19:27 | #55 |
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Ahhh, walked out and tripped over a Story article. The photo op makes sense now. GG. Well played.
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11th November 2015, 19:30 | #56 |
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I like how John Key says "child molesterers" and when he was giving his reasons was like "For one....", "secondly", and then "fourthly".
Can't talk, can't count, can't remember. What a can't.
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11th November 2015, 21:42 | #57 | |
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11th November 2015, 21:55 | #58 |
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Key wrong about Christmas Island murder claim
Number of Kiwi murderers and rapist on Christmas Island . . . . . . . 0
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11th November 2015, 23:59 | #59 |
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Australia has many other detention centres. No reason to fixate on Christmas Island.
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12th November 2015, 07:00 | #60 |
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Labour is barely fixating on any detention centre at the moment. They're busy being outraged wailing over John Key being a big meanie.
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I wish they'd stop calling that guy a war hero. Not to knock his service - that itself is worthy - but he hasn't been given a medal for bravery or gallantry or something like that. He has service medals. If he's a hero for serving in Afghanistan then all of our soldiers who were deployed there are now war heroes.
I'm sure they wouldn't feel embarrassed about being characterised as war heroes for just doing their jobs /s
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12th November 2015, 10:33 | #63 |
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I think nothing will be done about this whole sorry affair until they chuck Russell Crowe in there for failing the character test.
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12th November 2015, 13:39 | #65 |
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John Key and his government supports rapists by refusing to sufficiently fund the clinics that helps victims of rape recover from their trauma, which in turn would empower them to seek justice. So most rapists can and do get away with their crime.
The Greens have it right - John Key 'using rape as a political tool' - Metiria Turei. These are the values of our age. Rape is a political tool, not something that actually happens to people. Yay us.
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12th November 2015, 15:19 | #67 |
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And now nobody is talking about detention centres or special category visas or John Key's actual impotence when it comes to getting Australia to stop doing anything it wants.
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And what are you talking about Ab?
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12th November 2015, 16:03 | #71 |
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Labour's MPs on the whole act like a bunch of tired children with petty grudges. Politics is a game and Key is really good at it and they're really bad at it and that drives them crazy, and being able to drive them crazy with no effort and at no political cost is one of Key's most effective tools.
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This kind of politics is an attempt to accomplish one thing and one thing only: destabilise the opposition so that they are less effective come election time. Both sides do it all the time in equally despicable ways (Ron Mark's racism for a recent example), it's not our political system's best attribute, but it is what it is. Deep down, everyone in the country knows that John Key doesn't seriously believe that Labour support murderers and rapists. Everyone on the left knows this too, but it isn't stopping them from trying to score their own political points. |
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12th November 2015, 16:49 | #75 |
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And John Key is better at it than anyone on the opposition's side of the house.
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Is it possible that people hate what those in power are doing rather than those in power?
Is it possible the concerns of the actions of those in power are genuine, rather than just being concerned about not being in power? From what the rabid right of NZGames have to say (and refuse to comment on) it seems like the answer to both questions is a resounding no.
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13th November 2015, 15:29 | #80 |
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The Left keep proving the Right to be correct. Over and over again.
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