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Old 21st October 2014, 14:28     #1
[BT]MikeMan
 
Over Reaching Councils

So with all the focus on the national stage is it time to look at councils and their abuse of power?

Reference this from Auckland's supershitty council.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11345836
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Old 21st October 2014, 17:26     #2
fixed_truth
 
Looks like it's set by central government.
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The new rules are covered by the proposed Air Quality Bylaw 2015 as Auckland must comply with Government's air pollution standards.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...may-need-to-go
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During winter 18 tonnes of air pollution is emitted daily - 75 per cent of that comes from domestic fireplaces, Wagener said.

Wagener said there is a $624 million social cost due to air pollution from indoor fires.
I wonder how that is costed?
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Old 21st October 2014, 17:33     #3
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A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
That's a lot of ventolin inhalers
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Old 21st October 2014, 18:56     #4
Spink
 
It's the social cost of carbon (probably)

^ thought based on http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us...pollution.html
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Old 21st October 2014, 18:59     #5
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^ this guy
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Old 22nd October 2014, 10:05     #6
Juju
get to da choppa
 
I have no problem with it.
Old open fireplaces are shit house at actually doing what they're supposed to do as most of the heat goes up the chimney and you can't control the air flow to them, meaning they burn super hot for short periods and then fizzle out. They're a relic of the past.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 16:15     #7
xor
 
That's because of your white male privilege. You horrible horrible man!

What about the poors who can't afford to spend 3k on a new fireplace?
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Old 22nd October 2014, 16:27     #8
Lightspeed
 
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The home owning poors?
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Old 22nd October 2014, 16:42     #9
pxpx
 
I have an open fireplace that I don't use - was thinking about retrofitting an epic efficient burner into the existing hearth - would have looked great, but the cost of installation was going to be astronomical.

Got a heat pump instead rofl.
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Old 23rd October 2014, 09:40     #10
Juju
get to da choppa
 
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Originally Posted by xor
That's because of your white male privilege. You horrible horrible man!

What about the poors who can't afford to spend 3k on a new fireplace?
Funnily enough I don't have a fireplace of any type, nor can I afford 3k for a new one.

i is a poor
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Old 23rd October 2014, 19:58     #11
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I'm guessing this will only apply in urban Auckland in which case I'm going to do nothing; when I considered the economics of an upgrade from a heating cost perspective it was going to take ten years to get my money back i.e. it never happens.
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Old 29th October 2014, 09:12     #12
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Originally Posted by [BT]MikeMan
So with all the focus on the national stage is it time to look at councils and their abuse of power?

Reference this from Auckland's supershitty council.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11345836
so the fireplace has to be safe and efficient (modern) to sell a house....why is this abuse of power? They also make you have your structural changes and water waste changes council inspected.
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