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View Poll Results: Did you respond to the asset-sales referendum? | |||
Yes - responded YES | 10 | 21.28% | |
Yes - responded NO | 19 | 40.43% | |
No - did not respond | 18 | 38.30% | |
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll |
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15th December 2013, 15:08 | #1 | |
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Asset-sales referendum
How responded you, savages?
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15th December 2013, 15:50 | #2 |
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Yes.
Make a poll, you cunt.
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I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
15th December 2013, 16:07 | #3 |
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I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
15th December 2013, 19:12 | #4 |
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You missed yes - did not respond.
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Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. |
15th December 2013, 19:28 | #5 |
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15th December 2013, 19:32 | #6 |
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Lol never mind. Sunday session.
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16th December 2013, 08:43 | #7 |
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I don't think I got the papers - but Whaleoils story about the Postie union asking members to not deliver them, but to collect them for the union to complete in the negative and return sounds a little bit tinfoil hatty...
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16th December 2013, 08:54 | #8 |
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dont recall recieving any. but who gives a fuck right? obviously not most NZers...
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16th December 2013, 13:32 | #9 |
get to da choppa
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Come election time the economy is forecast to be booming. That'll be National's trump card.
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16th December 2013, 14:12 | #10 |
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Can't wait for dem sweet, sweet tax cuts.
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16th December 2013, 14:17 | #11 | |
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What say you, horse? |
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16th December 2013, 14:59 | #12 |
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Well the referendum looks to have been exactly what it was - a political advertisement for the Greens and Labour, paid for by the taxpayer.
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16th December 2013, 16:48 | #13 |
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The concept of asset sales just makes no sense to me, selling profit earning assets for a short term return (which turns out is a lot less then they were forecasting, ie air new zealand's sale) vs the constant returns... What am i missing here?
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16th December 2013, 17:20 | #14 | |
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16th December 2013, 17:41 | #15 | |
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16th December 2013, 17:49 | #16 |
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I don't think anyone would pay more for shares than the return they'd expect from them.
I think the idea was paying our debts or some business? Or maybe just a general principal of the gubberment not owning stuff, cause it should be private folk getting rich, not the public.
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16th December 2013, 19:28 | #17 | |
Mmm... Sacrilicious
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Non-binding referendums should be aborted. |
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16th December 2013, 21:14 | #18 | |
Don't worry, be harpy
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16th December 2013, 21:14 | #19 | |
Love, Actuary
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1. You're not selling for a short-term gain; the idea is to sell the assets for their long-term value. 2. There's a cost of holding these assets and that's the opportunity-cost of what could otherwise be done with the money; does it really make sense to own an airline instead of a hospital? 3. Government run entities rarely live up to their free-market potential; how can you justify running these businesses in a sub-optimal way? |
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16th December 2013, 21:17 | #20 | |
Love, Actuary
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17th December 2013, 09:36 | #21 | |
Don't worry, be harpy
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17th December 2013, 14:33 | #22 | |
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Labour's Mike Williams on the radio this morning (fwd to 19:10):
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17th December 2013, 15:19 | #23 | |
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I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
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17th December 2013, 16:16 | #24 |
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updated results via NZ Gazette
No: 920,188 Yes:442,985 Highest turn out: Otaki at 54.9% Lowest turn out: Mangere & Manurewa at 30.7% fun facts lol
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17th December 2013, 16:55 | #25 |
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It would be interesting to see how different the result would have been if the outcome HAD been binding.
Given the statements from the government prior to the referendum, nobody who supported the asset sales had any real reason to vote at all. And yet, 32% of the returns were still in favour. |
17th December 2013, 17:22 | #26 |
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By the same token, nobody who opposed it had any real reason to respond either.
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17th December 2013, 17:40 | #27 |
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Exactly. A 9 million dollar exercise in sweet fuck all designed to get Labour and the Greens a marketing database.
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17th December 2013, 17:44 | #28 |
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Wouldn't be the first time LabGreen have pillaged a petition for a marketing database.
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I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
17th December 2013, 18:03 | #29 |
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Criticism of the government was the lowest in the history of citizen-initiated referenda.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opi...ne-issue-polls |
17th December 2013, 18:04 | #30 |
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I think its sad that no matter the response the government flat out refuses to even take it into account, after all its the people they are supposed to be representing. This third public showing of complete disregard for public opinion (gcsb + off shore drilling) may have repercussions for Nationals next election result. Or not...
Gah, both National and Labour are really poor representatives in the end. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is always a drag as its gonna be a bit shit regardless of who wins. Hey Ab, tone it down mate.
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17th December 2013, 18:17 | #31 | |
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1. the only people who are going to vote in this are people who really care. 2. 40% of people care. 3. of those people who really care, 70% of them are against it 4. so thats like.... 30% of people who are opposed enough about this issue to bother posting a letter. 5. my math is very rough. Of course they are dismissing it. its a fail. i was surprised as fuck that it got any people who dont oppose it to vote even, i was expecting such a self selecting poll to be like 90% against it. i was not surprised at the low turnout. |
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17th December 2013, 18:22 | #32 | |
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17th December 2013, 18:53 | #33 |
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John Key played it smart.
Saying that they won't listen to the results because "only people opposed" with vote, and blubbering on about the $9m cost. So basically people didn't both and started complaining about the cost, rather than going out to vote. But WTF is $9m a waste of money? How many millions was paid to Analysts and marketers and whatever the fuck other costs that were paid to sell these. That $9m was probably just a drop in the bucket. I would love to see where all this money is now going. No wonder their books look great. And the likely hood is that once the money from these 1 off sales are gone, Labour will be in power and National will complain about how bad the books look. Fuck You National. To me Helen Clarke was there cause she wanted to be there and it just seems John Key just wants to be there to say he was. |
17th December 2013, 19:06 | #34 |
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I wonder how much it rustles Helen's jimmies that after all this time some people still think her surname is Clarke.
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18th December 2013, 15:44 | #36 |
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