NZG Photographers Gallery - Page 4

exo · 9th July 2008, 20:01

wellington lights

rimitaka hill

exo · 9th July 2008, 20:07

rimitaka hill

Nelson lake

cyc · 9th July 2008, 20:45

Holy fuck Exo those 2 photos are mint.

?>Superman · 9th July 2008, 21:31

First one is my new desktop :D

MadMax · 9th July 2008, 21:51

must be hdr? i should have a play with the auto hdr thingee on my camera

Ab · 9th July 2008, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyc

Holy fuck Exo those 2 photos are mint.

I heartily endorse this opinion and/or statement.

Heresy · 9th July 2008, 22:25

Awesome exo. Brilliant post-processing.

Cyberbob · 9th July 2008, 22:29

So what kind of shots should I be looking to make into HDR.. lots of various sources of light? dim lighting?

exo · 9th July 2008, 22:30

:D Thanks for +ve review. You're correct they're HDR, used the auto bracketing setting K10d has, Hardest thing about it is having a sturdy tripod. If it moves alittle then the pics dont line up and the result isnt as good eg:

Castle point(blury from tripod moving)

Another one from castle point
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/...7be0324d_b.jpg

exo · 9th July 2008, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

So what kind of shots should I be looking to make into HDR.. lots of various sources of light? dim lighting?

A camera only has a set range of black to white, you can shift where the mid point of the range is to expose for shadows or highlights. eg: in a sunset scene; you could expose for the sun and capture the highlights, leaving the shadows totally black. Or you can expose for the shadows, leaving the highlights white.

Hdr comes in by taking both shots and combining them together, so you extend the range of white to black levels.

To answer your question, the shots most suitable are those with a large dynamic range eg bright parts, and dark parts. Inside churches seems to be classic (bright windows, dark seats)
A lot easier if the scene isn't moving.

Sunsets
Sunrises
etc
forests

caffiend · 9th July 2008, 22:45

As awesome as those shots are (and they are indeed very cool), I am not a fan of HDR. That probably sounds hypocritical given I do post-process to some degree, but yeah... still what I think.

HDR is supposedly liked by people because it's "closer to what the human eye sees". But I disagree with that - to me it adds a very artificial 'fantastical' style to the image. I guess I just prefer what the camera sees.

Still... let me reiterate; they are superb shots in their own right (composition, subject etc).

crocos · 9th July 2008, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by exo

Thanks for +ve review. You're correct they're HDR, used the auto bracketing setting K10d has, Hardest thing about it is having a sturdy tripod. If it moves alittle then the pics dont line up and the result isnt as good eg:

Castle point(blury from tripod moving)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/...8a4ba3ca_b.jpg

Another one from castle point
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/...7be0324d_b.jpg

IMO? That's still pretty damn cool.

What HDR software?

crocos · 9th July 2008, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by caffiend

to me [HDR] adds a very artificial 'fantastical' style to the image. I guess I just prefer what the camera sees.

I agree fully about the style, but as for "what the camera sees"? Depends on what the photographer - as an artist - is after.

caffiend · 9th July 2008, 22:59

True. It's a combination of camera and photographer.

I guess all I'm trying to say is, I'm getting really jaded about digital photography - especially online, as I know exactly how easy it is to use 'trickery' to make an average shot look amazing. I've done it with my own photos - many times. I've amped up the fill light, contrast, clarity, saturation, cropped and rotated... and then posted on PBase, and had lots of comments about how amazing the shot is.

Truth is... my original single exposure shot was probably not especially impressive. For a while there I even took photos knowing that I would 'fix it in the mix' - and I got really lazy. But that's the 'Stock Aitken Waterman' approach to photography, which I do not want.

Granted - it takes skill to do a really nice post-processing job on a photo. But yeah.. just a personal preference.

crocos · 9th July 2008, 23:04

That's a good part of why the most common two lenses I use nowadays are my fisheye, and even more then that, my lensbaby. It gives it a unique look that cannot really be replicated properly in post. Cleaned up? Sure, but when you get into using non-circular apertures etc, things get fun

MadMax · 9th July 2008, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by exo

(blury from tripod moving)

adds to the effect

... at that resolution anyway.

i don't really see the argument against hdr. hdr photos portray an art. it's not like the photo is being used to document something.

crocos · 9th July 2008, 23:20

caffiend · 9th July 2008, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

... it's not like the photo is being used to document something.

Yes it is. That's what a photo is.

... To me.

Ritalin · 10th July 2008, 00:41

Wow exo, I love that Nelson lakes shot!
Fantastic composition, and the water looks so still and clear. Did you use a polarising filter, or is that just the HDR effect?

Delphinus · 10th July 2008, 00:44

Do you have any high def. copies of those please exo they are stunning!
Especially the Rimitaka's... probably because I love taking my motorbike over it so much

[WanG] Wandarah · 10th July 2008, 01:23

castle point blurry is fucking sweet. is new desktop.

previous masturbation occured to heresys trees+reflection.

please, i'm so close again, dont stop.

Heresy · 10th July 2008, 02:39

wandy, your unorthodox feedback gives this thread a nice glow.

?>Superman · 10th July 2008, 02:48

tbh i agree with wanda, that castle point shot is absolute sex.

dead goon · 10th July 2008, 02:52

I agree with caffiend. I'm all about what the camera sees.

The glamorous post produced pics are nice but they're not that real to me.

caffiend · 10th July 2008, 11:29

Sorry for the thread derail - this is supposed to be about pics, so:

Die Neues Museum, Berlin.

For the record, that image is directly out of the camera. Zero post processing... not even cropping. I say that because I am ludicrously happy with the symmetry. If only I could replicate that all the time

Ars vitae · 10th July 2008, 12:32

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I thought it was from the CryEngine 2.

Waldo · 10th July 2008, 12:47

Nice shots exo, shizzles like that almost want me to find the tripod. Then I realise its just nature I can head out and look at it. Nice photos all the same ;0

sv · 10th July 2008, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by caffiend

I guess all I'm trying to say is, I'm getting really jaded about digital photography.

Did you see the Laurence Aberhart exhibition at the City Gallery in 2007?

I'd never seen prints like that before in the flesh. Stunning depth and subtlety to the tone. Masterful, beautiful work. Blew me away!

http://www.citygallery.org.nz/mainsi...-aberhart.html

caffiend · 10th July 2008, 14:05

I saw the Aberhart exhibition at Dunedin gallery, and it was very, very cool. He definitely has some incredible stuff. Although, I don't like everything he does. His 'Horizons' series for example - some are fantastic -some are just... well... a bock of grey.. and a block of lighter grey.

I'm sure I'm missing something, but yeah.

Fatty · 10th July 2008, 14:39

Some random shots I got recently:

Road:

Kapiti Coast:

Kea:

Leaves on roof:

Ghetto Gospel:

Chimneys:

Snowy Church:

Deutschland:

Fred · 10th July 2008, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos

That is a lovely shot compositionally but nothing drives me more nuts than a shallow depth of focus shot that has no focused point in it. The point of such a shot is to draw the eye to a particular object or feature - this almost gets away without it.

VERT · 10th July 2008, 14:50

Great shots Exo, I like the blur on the Castlerock photo

Here are a couple from the other night

Fatty · 10th July 2008, 15:11

Exo working his magic on the Rimutakas!

crocos · 10th July 2008, 16:10

Tubby: Love the kea shot and the leaves - the kea because you got down to it's level and caught some of the curiosity that these birds are so famed for, and the leaves as the focal point hits where the light - and that central leaf - is just perfectly.

crocos · 10th July 2008, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred

That is a lovely shot compositionally but nothing drives me more nuts than a shallow depth of focus shot that has no focused point in it. The point of such a shot is to draw the eye to a particular object or feature - this almost gets away without it.

Cheers man (I think)!

The only reason there's not-quite a focal point is because there was f-all light and the cam was hand-held - camera shake for the lose

Shooting at f2 probably didn't help either

But even still it's one of my fav shots - with some shots I feel a _slightly_ out of focus look actually enhances the shot, and with this I think if the microphone was sharper it would look too clinical.

You'd hate the shot I'm about to post then...

crocos · 10th July 2008, 16:29

Sp0nge · 10th July 2008, 17:06

i tend to agree with fred...

that last pic hurts mine eyes

Fatty · 10th July 2008, 21:22

Thx Crocos! The Kea shot is one of my favourites too :>

Charismo' · 11th July 2008, 03:28

ah.. meh.. need to get my photos off facebook

.

[WanG] Wandarah · 11th July 2008, 04:19

is that kea being coy? is it giving a little of the glad eye?

9th July 2008, 21:51	#125
MadMax Stuff	must be hdr? i should have a play with the auto hdr thingee on my camera __________________ My degree of sarcasm depends on your degree of stupidity.

10th July 2008, 12:32	#146
Ars vitae User Awaiting Email Confirmation	[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2287251823_935b50e1b7.jpg[/img] I thought it was from the CryEngine 2.

10th July 2008, 12:47	#147
Waldo Pornstar	Nice shots exo, shizzles like that almost want me to find the tripod. Then I realise its just nature I can head out and look at it. Nice photos all the same ;0 __________________ Its Business time

9th July 2008, 20:01	#121
exo	wellington lights rimitaka hill Last edited by exo : 9th July 2008 at 20:03.

9th July 2008, 20:07	#122
exo	rimitaka hill Nelson lake Last edited by exo : 9th July 2008 at 20:09.

9th July 2008, 20:45	#123
cyc Objection!	Holy fuck Exo those 2 photos are mint.

9th July 2008, 21:31	#124
?>Superman	First one is my new desktop :D

9th July 2008, 22:25	#127
Heresy yawn.	Awesome exo. Brilliant post-processing.

9th July 2008, 22:29	#128
Cyberbob	So what kind of shots should I be looking to make into HDR.. lots of various sources of light? dim lighting? __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

9th July 2008, 22:30	#129
exo	:D :D Thanks for +ve review. You're correct they're HDR, used the auto bracketing setting K10d has, Hardest thing about it is having a sturdy tripod. If it moves alittle then the pics dont line up and the result isnt as good eg: Castle point(blury from tripod moving) Another one from castle point http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/...7be0324d_b.jpg

9th July 2008, 22:45	#131
caffiend	As awesome as those shots are (and they are indeed very cool), I am not a fan of HDR. That probably sounds hypocritical given I do post-process to some degree, but yeah... still what I think. HDR is supposedly liked by people because it's "closer to what the human eye sees". But I disagree with that - to me it adds a very artificial 'fantastical' style to the image. I guess I just prefer what the camera sees. Still... let me reiterate; they are superb shots in their own right (composition, subject etc). __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

9th July 2008, 22:59	#134
caffiend	True. It's a combination of camera and photographer. I guess all I'm trying to say is, I'm getting really jaded about digital photography - especially online, as I know exactly how easy it is to use 'trickery' to make an average shot look amazing. I've done it with my own photos - many times. I've amped up the fill light, contrast, clarity, saturation, cropped and rotated... and then posted on PBase, and had lots of comments about how amazing the shot is. Truth is... my original single exposure shot was probably not especially impressive. For a while there I even took photos knowing that I would 'fix it in the mix' - and I got really lazy. But that's the 'Stock Aitken Waterman' approach to photography, which I do not want. Granted - it takes skill to do a really nice post-processing job on a photo. But yeah.. just a personal preference. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

9th July 2008, 23:04	#135
crocos	That's a good part of why the most common two lenses I use nowadays are my fisheye, and even more then that, my lensbaby. It gives it a unique look that cannot really be replicated properly in post. Cleaned up? Sure, but when you get into using non-circular apertures etc, things get fun __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

9th July 2008, 23:20	#137
crocos	__________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

10th July 2008, 00:41	#139
Ritalin	Wow exo, I love that Nelson lakes shot! Fantastic composition, and the water looks so still and clear. Did you use a polarising filter, or is that just the HDR effect?

10th July 2008, 00:44	#140
Delphinus	Do you have any high def. copies of those please exo they are stunning! Especially the Rimitaka's... probably because I love taking my motorbike over it so much

10th July 2008, 01:23	#141
[WanG] Wandarah	castle point blurry is fucking sweet. is new desktop. previous masturbation occured to heresys trees+reflection. please, i'm so close again, dont stop.

10th July 2008, 02:39	#142
Heresy yawn.	wandy, your unorthodox feedback gives this thread a nice glow.

10th July 2008, 02:48	#143
?>Superman	tbh i agree with wanda, that castle point shot is absolute sex.

10th July 2008, 02:52	#144
dead goon	I agree with caffiend. I'm all about what the camera sees. The glamorous post produced pics are nice but they're not that real to me.

10th July 2008, 11:29	#145
caffiend	Sorry for the thread derail - this is supposed to be about pics, so: Die Neues Museum, Berlin. For the record, that image is directly out of the camera. Zero post processing... not even cropping. I say that because I am ludicrously happy with the symmetry. If only I could replicate that all the time __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

10th July 2008, 14:05	#149
caffiend	I saw the Aberhart exhibition at Dunedin gallery, and it was very, very cool. He definitely has some incredible stuff. Although, I don't like everything he does. His 'Horizons' series for example - some are fantastic -some are just... well... a bock of grey.. and a block of lighter grey. I'm sure I'm missing something, but yeah. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

10th July 2008, 14:39	#150
Fatty	Some random shots I got recently: Road: Kapiti Coast: Kea: Leaves on roof: Ghetto Gospel: Chimneys: Snowy Church: Deutschland: __________________ yagsiPilb Last edited by Fatty : 10th July 2008 at 14:41.

10th July 2008, 14:50	#152
VERT	Great shots Exo, I like the blur on the Castlerock photo Here are a couple from the other night Last edited by VERT : 10th July 2008 at 14:52.

10th July 2008, 15:11	#153
Fatty	Exo Exo working his magic on the Rimutakas! __________________ yagsiPilb

10th July 2008, 16:10	#154
crocos	Tubby: Love the kea shot and the leaves - the kea because you got down to it's level and caught some of the curiosity that these birds are so famed for, and the leaves as the focal point hits where the light - and that central leaf - is just perfectly. __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

10th July 2008, 16:29	#156
crocos	__________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

10th July 2008, 17:06	#157
Sp0nge	i tend to agree with fred... that last pic hurts mine eyes __________________ '[]' []-[] [] []\[] []<

10th July 2008, 21:22	#158
Fatty	Thx Crocos! The Kea shot is one of my favourites too :> __________________ yagsiPilb

11th July 2008, 03:28	#159
Charismo'	ah.. meh.. need to get my photos off facebook .

11th July 2008, 04:19	#160
[WanG] Wandarah	is that kea being coy? is it giving a little of the glad eye?