National Thus Far - Page 49

MrTTTT · 29th July 2010, 22:05

Actually, could you be more of a scrotum? I reckon it's not possible but prove me wrong.

cyc · 29th July 2010, 22:20

Were you born retarded or did your parents abuse you as a child? I can otherwise think of little reason why you'd constantly resort to these lame one line retorts all the time.

David · 29th July 2010, 22:29

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Originally Posted by MrTTTT

You are such a scrotum.

Wow, you're an educated rational intellectual.

No wait, I'm wrong. You're actually a fucking incompetent internet insulter. Not many people I'd ever say this to, but you could actually learn something from CCS.

Goff fucks up the Labour party once more, love it.

MrTTTT · 29th July 2010, 23:16

Go and suck off Rodney Hyde ya scrotum!

MrTTTT · 29th July 2010, 23:17

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Originally Posted by cyc

Were you born retarded or did your parents abuse you as a child? I can otherwise think of little reason why you'd constantly resort to these lame one line retorts all the time.

Stop getting so 'testy', ya scrotum.

Cynos · 30th July 2010, 14:20

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Originally Posted by David

Thank god for Goff tbh.

It means National can make some unpopular but absolutely neccessary decisions.

Yeah like mining in Nat...
I mean like lowering the blood alco...
I mean like reviewing the OIA to make it easier for foreign investors to invest...
I mean like selling Kiwib...

Hmm.

fixed_truth · 3rd August 2010, 18:02

So Key could work with Winston?
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/nats...-first-3683467

crocos · 3rd August 2010, 18:12

The tone of the article hints the exact opposite of that.

BoyWonder · 3rd August 2010, 18:19

Pretty standard issue to neither confirm nor deny - unless its polar opposites like Labour and Act or National and Greens of course. IMO It would be unlikely though that National will need NZ First anyway.

madmaxii · 3rd August 2010, 18:23

The last thing I'd want to see is Winnie being King Maker again

Ab · 3rd August 2010, 18:23

Given that Goff has said he WOULD work with Winston, if I were JK I'd wait until 2 days out from the next election before saying I WOULDN'T. Instant vote-winner.

fixed_truth · 3rd August 2010, 18:32

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Mr Key ruled out forming a coalition or entering a support agreement with Mr Peters after the 2008 election.

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We'll cross that bridge if I ever come to it. One never knows, there are always lots of games you can play around there between (Winston) and Michael Laws. It depends who the leader is, I suppose... I understand there's some competition

Sounds like he's setting the groundwork in case he needs to flip flop. Good-bye moral high ground.

madmaxii · 3rd August 2010, 18:32

fixed_truth · 3rd August 2010, 18:36

Or has something changed? Did the whole Owen Glenn donation misunderstand get sorted out & Winston was in the right?

Ab · 3rd August 2010, 20:16

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Or has something changed? Did the whole Owen Glenn donation misunderstand get sorted out & Winston was in the right?

Think you're getting your corruption wires crossed, that was Labour. Winston was getting bribes from the gambling and fishing industries IIRC.

fixed_truth · 3rd August 2010, 21:08

It wasn't that long ago

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10529238

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In an explosive letter to Parliament's privileges committee released this morning billionaire Owen Glenn wrote that Mr Peters sought, obtained and thanked him for a $100,000 donation.

Mr Peters had denied knowledge of the donation which he says his lawyer Brian Henry obtained in December 2006 to pay legal costs. Today he said Mr Glenn was wrong and that he would prove it.

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Mr Key said unless Mr Peters could provide a credible explanation, something he thought unlikely to happen, he would be unacceptable in a government he led.

TheBender · 3rd August 2010, 21:19

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

It wasn't that long ago

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10529238

who could forget this...... (oh ok, I did until looking up the story again....)

fixed_truth · 7th August 2010, 11:50

Couple of interesting links stolen from kiwiblog & teh standard

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/n...ectid=10664140

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Shame on National. That party's behaviour in Parliament over the past couple of weeks has on occasion veered close to being a disgrace both to itself and the institution.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...going-DHB-boss

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Wellington's district health board chief has quit, saying he cannot cut costs any further without undermining patient care.
Ken Whelan announced his resignation yesterday as chief executive of Capital & Coast District Health Board, which he has led since April 2008.

Ab · 7th August 2010, 17:55

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

It wasn't that long ago

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10529238

You are completely right, I must be going senile

chubby · 11th August 2010, 19:20

http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/mood-swing/

Ab · 11th August 2010, 21:15

Yeah, pretty much.

xor · 25th August 2010, 08:43

This journo needs to get his tongue out of Mr Keys ass

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10668580

fixed_truth · 13th October 2010, 21:55

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National-led Government (52.5%, down 0.5%) lose ground on Opposition Parties 47.5%) Smallest lead since 2008 New Zealand Election

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The latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows support for John Key’s National-led Government has weakened slightly to 52.5% (down 0.5%), comprising National Party 49.5% (up 1%), Maori Party 2.5% (up 1%), ACT NZ 0.5% (down 1.5%) and United Future 0% (down 1%).

Support for Opposition Parties has risen to 47.5% (up 0.5%); Labour Party 36.5% (up 2.5%), Greens 8% (unchanged), New Zealand First 2.5% (down 2%), Progressive Party 0% (down 0.5%) and Others 0.5% (up 0.5%

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2010/4586/

chubby · 17th October 2010, 15:08

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Law Commission to review gaps around 'new media'

simon powers said...“It’s a bit of a Wild West out there in cyberspace at the moment, because bloggers and online publishers are not subject to any form of regulation or professional or ethical standards."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA101...-new-media.htm

madmaxii · 17th October 2010, 17:53

Fuck me - our boy Simon is going to tame the interwebs!!!! With laws even.

Now, let me see, who's tried this before.......?

Ab · 17th October 2010, 18:11

Simon Power can lick my balls.

fixed_truth · 17th October 2010, 22:10

NZ National Party discovers the Internet?

[Malks] Pixie · 19th October 2010, 15:05

I found this quite enlightening - http://publicaddress.net/6912#post6912

Well worth a read (it's short).

Pixie

Cynos · 19th October 2010, 15:23

Yeah, I was raging impotently about that chutzpah in the car this morning.

crocos · 19th October 2010, 15:45

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Originally Posted by chubby

simon powers said...“It’s a bit of a Wild West out there in cyberspace at the moment, because bloggers and online publishers are not subject to any form of regulation or professional or ethical standards."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA101...-new-media.htm

I blame WhaleOil. He's made it popular to put restrictions on blogs.

Ab · 19th October 2010, 15:54

I think it's terrible that private citizens expressing their opinions are not subject to any form of regulation or professional or ethical standards. Just terrible.

crocos · 19th October 2010, 15:57

It's more private citizens acting in a public capacity - what's the difference between an ad-supported blog and a newspaper? Newspapers are obliged to state when it's an opinion piece.

Lightspeed · 19th October 2010, 16:51

How specifically does one differentiate what is public and private in this context?

crocos · 19th October 2010, 16:59

One possibility: when you have very little (if any) control over who can access the content - ie Buying/borrowing a newspaper = visiting a blog. Where as a conversation is - unless interfered with - private, so equivalent to say ICQ, GTalk or other forms of IM (facebook / forum private messages / etc)

Lightspeed · 31st October 2010, 01:37

Well, at least National want more transparency. We can't ask for more than that.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...r-MPs-expenses

GRiM ReeFer · 31st October 2010, 10:31

oh fuck off, what party is Lockwood in?
John Key's comments are always the same:

"someone else made a decision, I'm innocent, now here's a smile I prepared earlier"

A Corpse · 1st November 2010, 12:38

But at least we're giving them a try at it. They had to wait 9 years, it's only fair, isn't it? Right? Guys?

chubby · 2nd November 2010, 17:39

dictatorship:Under Urgency
police state:Under Urgency
eroded worker rights:Under Urgency
less transparency for politicians:Under Urgency

nice work john.

ZoSo · 2nd November 2010, 18:09

The Last Real Time was pretty lol with the TP dude in the middle. Though I'm not sure even if the Dems did crow about all their achievements, they'd have much chance. Americans are just plain crazy atm. I mean look at the clowns who they are putting up and who are getting in.
Was a really good ad on C&L (iirc) about 'I remember' that the dems should be spamming the hell out of. Not that it'll work.

CCS · 2nd November 2010, 18:12

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Originally Posted by chubby

less transparency for politicians:Under Urgency

Less transparency? If you're referring to the MP's travel allowances being made public, that's got nothing to do with John Key. That's the Speaker. BTW, I don't recall Labour ever doing anything about making MP's allowances more transparent.

1st November 2010, 12:38	#1957
A Corpse talkative lurker	But at least we're giving them a try at it. They had to wait 9 years, it's only fair, isn't it? Right? Guys? __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

29th July 2010, 22:05	#1921
MrTTTT	Actually, could you be more of a scrotum? I reckon it's not possible but prove me wrong.

29th July 2010, 22:20	#1922
cyc Objection!	Were you born retarded or did your parents abuse you as a child? I can otherwise think of little reason why you'd constantly resort to these lame one line retorts all the time.

29th July 2010, 23:16	#1924
MrTTTT	Go and suck off Rodney Hyde ya scrotum!

3rd August 2010, 18:02	#1927
fixed_truth	So Key could work with Winston? http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/nats...-first-3683467 __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

3rd August 2010, 18:12	#1928
crocos	The tone of the article hints the exact opposite of that. __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

3rd August 2010, 18:19	#1929
BoyWonder	Pretty standard issue to neither confirm nor deny - unless its polar opposites like Labour and Act or National and Greens of course. IMO It would be unlikely though that National will need NZ First anyway.

3rd August 2010, 18:23	#1930
madmaxii	The last thing I'd want to see is Winnie being King Maker again __________________ Carpe Diem

3rd August 2010, 18:23	#1931
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Given that Goff has said he WOULD work with Winston, if I were JK I'd wait until 2 days out from the next election before saying I WOULDN'T. Instant vote-winner.

3rd August 2010, 18:32	#1933
madmaxii	Ab __________________ Carpe Diem

3rd August 2010, 18:36	#1934
fixed_truth	Or has something changed? Did the whole Owen Glenn donation misunderstand get sorted out & Winston was in the right? __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

11th August 2010, 19:20	#1940
chubby	Mood Swing. http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/mood-swing/ __________________ "Take four red capsules, in ten minutes-take two more. Help is on the way."

11th August 2010, 21:15	#1941
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Yeah, pretty much.

25th August 2010, 08:43	#1942
xor	This journo needs to get his tongue out of Mr Keys ass http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10668580

17th October 2010, 17:53	#1945
madmaxii	Fuck me - our boy Simon is going to tame the interwebs!!!! With laws even. Now, let me see, who's tried this before.......? __________________ Carpe Diem

17th October 2010, 18:11	#1946
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Simon Power can lick my balls.

17th October 2010, 22:10	#1947
fixed_truth	NZ National Party discovers the Internet? __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

19th October 2010, 15:05	#1948
[Malks] Pixie	I found this quite enlightening - http://publicaddress.net/6912#post6912 Well worth a read (it's short). Pixie __________________ Civilised is as civilised does and civilised people walk among us.

19th October 2010, 15:23	#1949
Cynos	Yeah, I was raging impotently about that chutzpah in the car this morning. __________________ So the perkbuster Hide abusing perks, crimbuster Garrett actually a crim - what's next? Roger Douglas is secretly poor? --Saladin

19th October 2010, 15:54	#1951
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	I think it's terrible that private citizens expressing their opinions are not subject to any form of regulation or professional or ethical standards. Just terrible.

19th October 2010, 15:57	#1952
crocos	It's more private citizens acting in a public capacity - what's the difference between an ad-supported blog and a newspaper? Newspapers are obliged to state when it's an opinion piece. __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية Last edited by crocos : 19th October 2010 at 15:58.

19th October 2010, 16:51	#1953
Lightspeed	How specifically does one differentiate what is public and private in this context? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

19th October 2010, 16:59	#1954
crocos	One possibility: when you have very little (if any) control over who can access the content - ie Buying/borrowing a newspaper = visiting a blog. Where as a conversation is - unless interfered with - private, so equivalent to say ICQ, GTalk or other forms of IM (facebook / forum private messages / etc) __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

31st October 2010, 01:37	#1955
Lightspeed	Well, at least National want more transparency. We can't ask for more than that. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...r-MPs-expenses __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

31st October 2010, 10:31	#1956
GRiM ReeFer	oh fuck off, what party is Lockwood in? John Key's comments are always the same: "someone else made a decision, I'm innocent, now here's a smile I prepared earlier"

2nd November 2010, 17:39	#1958
chubby	dictatorship:Under Urgency police state:Under Urgency eroded worker rights:Under Urgency less transparency for politicians:Under Urgency nice work john. __________________ "Take four red capsules, in ten minutes-take two more. Help is on the way."

2nd November 2010, 18:09	#1959
ZoSo	The Last Real Time was pretty lol with the TP dude in the middle. Though I'm not sure even if the Dems did crow about all their achievements, they'd have much chance. Americans are just plain crazy atm. I mean look at the clowns who they are putting up and who are getting in. Was a really good ad on C&L (iirc) about 'I remember' that the dems should be spamming the hell out of. Not that it'll work.