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Old 23rd April 2018, 22:34     #41
Lightspeed
 
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Originally Posted by crocos
Even right up to Pearl Harbour, the US looked like it was planning to not get involved with WWII, even to defend an ally. Frankly they've zero moral authority.
The US definitely was involved, just not militarily so. And there were complex issues to balance, such as the public's reluctance of a repeat of WWI and the impact the Great Depression, as well as regular ole politics.

Really it's a shame the US doesn't have the same reluctance to get involved in conflict.
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Old 24th April 2018, 00:56     #42
Nich
 
Well, it's those who claim to represent the US as a nation and international super power with energy and resource interests throughout the world. By that, I mean the US citizens didn't want a war with Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, or even the World Wars. I imagine US citizens are quite ignorant that these other nations even exist until they are told who the "Bad guys" are through their telescreen. Even then the named culprit is questionable (ie, Saudi Arabia brought low the World Trade Towers, but yet it sparked a war with Afghanistan and Iraq?).

In general, people want to feel useful, with a place to belong and prosper. War is a terrible way for the average person to prosper, except by its perks for industry back home. For the US, the loot is the military industrial complex + control of energy (oil) + control of world currency USD. In a way, the US government has done well by its citizens by its dealings in all wars since WW2. Military components are manufactured in every US city = jobs, by controlling the oil supply they can control the price, controlling trade of oil in USD means the US citizens can enjoy a strong currency. The problem is that this policy shits on everyone who isn't the US.

Oh, and also the US soldiers fighting all these wars are mercenaries. Do these wars ever have to involve the general public?

War has come to mean job security for many US citizens. The USD will only have value as long as oil is in high demand. The middle east is rich with oil and natural gas. The end of war will mean world-wide economic collapse.

Eisenhower Farewell Address (warnings regarding Military Industrial Complex)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU
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Old 24th April 2018, 12:09     #43
Nich
 
MSM Is Frantically Attacking Dissenting Syria Narratives, And It Looks Really Bad

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And people are noticing. It’s getting too blatantly obvious, like a stranger coming up to you and talking about climate change while openly masturbating; what he is doing would eclipse interest in whatever he is saying. The frenetic publication of hit pieces against anyone who fails to fall in line with the establishment Syria narrative is fast becoming the real story here.

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Old 24th April 2018, 12:22     #44
Nich
 
Gabbard's Stop Arming Terrorists Act Introduced in Senate
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press...roduced-senate

Tucker Carlson speaking some truth with Tulsi Gabbard regarding Trump ending a CIA program that provides weapons to Al Qaida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PvnZ1WZw_4
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Old 25th April 2018, 19:30     #45
Nich
 
What They Don't Tell You About Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj_VwszvqdM
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Old 25th April 2018, 20:02     #46
Nich
 
The World Now Knows, 'It's the British Empire, Stupid!'
https://youtu.be/NUTmsdussIo

La Rouche PAC is very dry, but very-well researched.
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Old 27th April 2018, 13:08     #47
Nich
 
John Kerry, the war broker:

from 2013 (remember, North Korea was more "menacing" back then, and Iran was very menacing due to their proven track record of brutal cavalry invasions of neighbouring countries)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY_1eavidtM
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen: Military operations in Syria could cost billions to the US tax payer, also what's this about the senate not even getting the opportunity to vote on use of military force?
John Kerry: No problem, Saudi Arabia will foot the bill if we do to Syria what we did to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. No boots on the ground, just big fucking bombs.

https://theduran.com/leaked-recordin...nded-al-qaeda/
John Kerry: Goddam diplomacy is taking us further and further away from war. So do i still get my commission?
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Old 4th May 2018, 15:12     #48
Nich
 
Reality Check: Who's Funding the White Helmets?
https://youtu.be/0EXtHoOi7_4

Also:
U.S. freezes funding for Syria's "White Helmets"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-fre...white-helmets/
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Old 19th May 2018, 09:30     #49
Ab
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Putin's Russia is engaged in an incredibly deep incredibly broad incredibly long-term information war on the West. The objective is not to make you believe that some things are one way or another way (i.e., it's not propaganda); the objective is to destroy the notion of objective truth in media and get citizens of Western nations to give up on news. To give up on believing that they can trust anything.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...Shooti ng#rss
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Old 27th July 2018, 16:33     #50
Nich
 
Germany to accept several members of White Helmets and their families seeking asylum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2SyTIm8oM

Now that hollywood storytime news media cannot milk any more sympathy nor generate any more fervor for war with Syria, its time to distribute this terrorist organisation all throughout Europe.

I wonder if US will accept any White Helmets members as they declare victory in Syria and retreat with their tail between their legs.

Meanwhile, Iran, China, and Russia have dumped their US Treasury bonds. Looks like Syria and North Korea can take a rain check while some empty threats are directed at Iran.

Also meanwhile, Yemen is quietly being sent back to the stone age.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...es-war-yemen-0
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Old 30th July 2018, 11:55     #51
Nich
 
Robert Fisk tracks weapons used by Al-Nusra (aka Al-Qaeda / ISIS), and the transfer from California to Al-Nusra all appears quite formal and ... normal.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8459731.html

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Readers, a small detective story. Note down this number: MFG BGM-71E-1B. And this number: STOCK NO 1410-01-300-0254. And this code: DAA A01 C-0292. I found all these numerals printed on the side of a spent missile casing lying in the basement of a bombed-out Islamist base in eastern Aleppo last year. At the top were the words “Hughes Aircraft Co”, founded in California back in the 1930s by the infamous Howard Hughes and sold in 1997 to Raytheon, the massive US defence contractor whose profits last year came to $23.35bn (£18bn). Shareholders include the Bank of America and Deutsche Bank. Raytheon’s Middle East offices can be found in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Israel, Egypt, Turkey and Kuwait.

There were dozens of other used-up identical missile casings in the same underground room in the ruins of eastern Aleppo, with sequential codings; in other words, these anti-armour missiles – known in the trade as Tows, “Tube-launched, optically tracked and wire-guided missiles”
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Old 12th September 2018, 15:38     #52
Nich
 
Why Are We Siding With al-Qaeda?
By Ron Paul
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50234.htm

Good question.

Syrian state YouTube channels ‘terminated’ amid fears of looming false-flag chem attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHVgoUypAm8

Previous attempts at regime change faced resistance because of the flow of information (both truthful, and propaganda-driven). More warnings given to Syria: "Stop using chemical weapons!", shut down Syria's ability to tell it's side of the story, maybe Al Qaeda can set off a dirty bomb, and the NATO can get the greenlight for their invasion force.

the news stories continue to tell us what was said, rather than show us what was said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsacEWdtON8
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Old 15th September 2018, 11:46     #53
Nich
 
Tulsi Gabbard tells it how it is.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...911-over-syria
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Old 5th October 2018, 11:08     #54
Ab
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Originally Posted by Ab
Putin's Russia is engaged in an incredibly deep incredibly broad incredibly long-term information war on the West.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/10/...fandamentalism
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Old 5th October 2018, 13:44     #55
Nich
 
OPCW Fact finding mission regarding chemical attack in Douma 7th APRIL 2018:

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/...45-2018_e_.pdf

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The FFM team visited Locations 2 and 4, where it observed the presence of an industrial gas cylinder on a top floor patio at Location 2, and the presence of a similar cylinder lying on the bed of a top floor apartment at Location 4. Close to the location of each cylinder there were crater-like openings in the respective reinforced concrete roofs. Work is ongoing to assess the association of these cylinders with the incident, the relative damage to the cylinders and the roofs, and how the cylinders arrived at their respective locations.
So a "helicopter barrel bomb" dropped onto a rooftop patio, and a bed....

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Old 29th October 2018, 13:29     #56
Nich
 
From 2014

Why The White House Is Desperate To Bury Benghazi
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle38434.htm

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In May last year, Senator Rand Paul was one of the first to speculate that the truth behind Benghazi was linked to an illicit arms smuggling program that saw weapons being trafficked to terrorists in Syria as part of the United States’ proxy war against the Assad regime.

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The real truth behind Benghazi is likely to reveal that the Obama administration knowingly and deliberately provided surface to air missiles and other weapons to the most bloodthirsty Al-Qaeda jihadists in Syria who are now busy crucifying Christians while promising to bring their reign of terror to the west.

"we came, we saw, he died"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

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Old 3rd June 2019, 02:00     #57
Ab
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Originally Posted by Ab
Putin's Russia is engaged in an incredibly deep incredibly broad incredibly long-term information war on the West. The objective is not to make you believe that some things are one way or another way (i.e., it's not propaganda); the objective is to destroy the notion of objective truth in media and get citizens of Western nations to give up on news. To give up on believing that they can trust anything.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-va...twitter-study/
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