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Old 7th August 2022, 23:38     #1641
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Is there a side that’s in favour of cheating and the subjugation of women?
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Old 7th August 2022, 23:52     #1642
Lightspeed
 
Well yes, that's the status quo. That's what you and I are about, with the systems we support and maintain. I get it, there's a nice abstraction that separates us and the subjugation, but it's our way of life that perpetuates it.

But not what I meant.

I meant the circumstances, the situations people are in and the experiences they have that compel these changes. Do you know much about that?

Or is it just some "leftist" agenda, driven by a secret cabal cooking up what will be most offensive to the right?
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Old 10th August 2022, 09:36     #1643
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Man, I left academia too soon

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In this research note, I will recount how I set up an experimental method of masturbating to shota comics
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....87941221096600
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Old 11th August 2022, 12:00     #1644
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
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The lawsuits from Tavistock victims will be visible from SPACE.
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BREAKING: The Tavistock gender clinic is facing mass legal action from youngsters who claim they were rushed into taking life-altering puberty blockers.

Lawyers expect about 1,000 families to join a medical negligence lawsuit.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...lies-lbsw6k8zd
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Old 12th August 2022, 01:07     #1645
Ab
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Irish Rugby Union excludes males from female competition:

https://www.outkick.com/irish-rugby-...womens-league/
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Old 12th August 2022, 09:53     #1646
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Taika is cancelled for transphobic tweets

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ns-tweets.html
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Old 12th August 2022, 13:50     #1647
Lightspeed
 
o_O

Do you feel at least a little bit of embarrassment when you have to stoop to the Daily Mail to promote your agenda?
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Old 12th August 2022, 13:55     #1648
Ab
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My new favourite form of content is NZ social campaign posters. Now that my eyes have stopped bleeding from the monkeypox flyer, we have this beauty from Women's Health Action, which would like you to know that brown women's bodies exist to be milked so white dudes can pretend to breastfeed or something oh god the bleeding has started again

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Old 12th August 2022, 13:57     #1649
Lightspeed
 
lolz, yes Ab, we can live any fucking life we want on the fringes. We don't have to participate in your mainstream.

Aww, but what if we don't show up to work every day, and what if sport isn't fair?

I feel for you bro. Look to your kids, they'll help you out.
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Old 12th August 2022, 21:47     #1650
Ab
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Speaking of life on the fringes, like, in Dunedin, spare a thought for this poor woman who is being marginalised by the patriarchy for (checks notes) chasing a man into a church, beating him into submission, and anally raping him with her penis

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/woman-...SJKUH4TG4F76A/

and people say that MALE violence is a problem, sheesh
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Old 12th August 2022, 21:57     #1651
Lightspeed
 
Ugh, you're gross Ab.
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Old 12th August 2022, 22:01     #1652
Ab
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I withdraw and apologise, it was mean of me to denigrate Dunedin like that.
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Old 12th August 2022, 22:28     #1653
Lightspeed
 
It's hateful right? Your behaviour.
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Old 12th August 2022, 23:03     #1654
_Incubus_
 
Wacked

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I withdraw and apologise, it was mean of me to denigrate Dunedin like that.
Ok, I'm now lost at this point...I am now identifying as a car. Driving my car is fun at this point until the dead dino's run out...
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Old 13th August 2022, 09:50     #1655
Ajax
Architeuthis
 
Important new academic research:

https://archive.ph/iNWoP

(now removed pending ethical review but archive sites have long memories)

Abstract
I wanted to understand how my research participants experience sexual pleasure when reading shota, a Japanese genre of self-published erotic comics that features young boy characters. I therefore started reading the comics in the same way as my research participants had told me that they did it: while masturbating. In this research note, I will recount how I set up an experimental method of masturbating to shota comics, and how this participant observation of my own desire not only gave me a more embodied understanding of the topic for my research but also made me think about loneliness and ways to combat it as driving forces of the culture of self-published erotic comics.
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Old 16th August 2022, 06:40     #1656
Ab
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Boys are like kittens, it’s hard to take your eyes off them.
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Old 16th August 2022, 07:56     #1657
fixed_truth
 
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Andersson also stated that any criticism of the magazine was based in “homophobia,” and that: “the gay movement has lost touch with its past … It was founded to a large extent by men who were attracted to adolescent boys in Germany in the beginning of the 20th century. That should be acknowledged and it isn’t. We should honor them because we owe them our freedoms — instead, we despise them.”
What a nutbar.
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Old 17th August 2022, 07:11     #1658
StN
I have detailed files
 
Oh CNN , what are you implying???

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Old 23rd August 2022, 10:37     #1659
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
https://www.mpi.govt.nz/news/media-r...ngs-to-thrive/

Our tax dollars at work
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Old 23rd August 2022, 13:50     #1660
Lightspeed
 
Is that political correctness?

Looks more like the government trying to get funding where it's needed.
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Old 23rd August 2022, 14:09     #1661
Ab
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A tree-planting program that only works on a marae, only works when its managers believe in horoscopes, and only works when they pray to the seeds.... isn't really scalable.
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Old 23rd August 2022, 14:16     #1662
Lightspeed
 
Yeah, but the government is supposed to be there for all of New Zealand, not just the industrialised and colonised. Not everything has to be ticked off by a physicist (and you'll find necessary physicists are often absent when they're there's money to be made cutting corners, as the bodies of 29 men in the Pike River mine can attest to).
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Old 24th August 2022, 10:22     #1663
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A tree-planting program that only works on a marae, only works when its managers believe in horoscopes, and only works when they pray to the seeds.... isn't really scalable.
LOL
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Old 24th August 2022, 10:22     #1664
Ab
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Dam about to burst in Oz:

‘Absolutely devastating’: woman sues psychiatrist over gender transition

https://www.smh.com.au/national/abso...23-p5bbyr.html
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Old 24th August 2022, 11:27     #1665
_indigo1
 
A failed transition as a child seems like a good backstory for a supervillain
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Old 24th August 2022, 13:54     #1666
Lightspeed
 
Unfortunately the underlying issue of young people looking for belonging and struggling to find it will remain unaddressed.
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Old 24th August 2022, 14:09     #1667
Ab
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Rapid onset gender dysphoria is OVERWHELMINGLY a phenomenon of teenage girls who are active on social media. It's this generation's anorexia. The thing about anorexia is... a girl who gets over it can pick up a fork. A girl who gets over ROGD but only after she has had her breasts and uterus and ovaries removed and been on testosterone injections that have given her a permanent deep voice, facial hair, and an adam's apple, well she's fucked for life.

Now, some of the girls fucked for life have grown up and are hiring lawyers.
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Old 24th August 2022, 15:06     #1668
Lightspeed
 
Yeah, but it's just what's popping through on the surface.

The underlying phenomena is what it always is: inequality. People growing up in need trying to do what they can to get their needs met, with the stunted insight they have.
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Old 24th August 2022, 15:13     #1669
fixed_truth
 
Will be interesting to see if it goes anywhere as they were 21/22 when they got the surgery.
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Old 24th August 2022, 16:40     #1670
Ab
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Will be interesting to see if it goes anywhere as they were 21/22 when they got the surgery.
Why is her age relevant? Bad medical advice is bad no matter the age of the person it's given to.
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Old 24th August 2022, 17:34     #1671
Lightspeed
 
Age is relevant in the context of informed consent. One's capacity to be informed differs with age.

It's only bad advice in hindsight, but for many the same advice would be good advice.

I get it, you're happy with your house, the hopes you have for your children. If inequality was the problem here, if we were concerned about children groping blindly for identity, meaning, connection, belonging, that might put those things at jeopardy. Resources you're hoping your children will be able to exploit might not be as easily accessible if everyone has equal access to those opportunities.

Hysteria feels better.
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Old 24th August 2022, 17:46     #1672
fixed_truth
 
What LS said. If they were under 16 then they would by default not be capable of making decisions about their health.

Which would be more straight forward to prove whether or not there was - “no psychiatric evidence of incompetence regarding making medical decisions”
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Old 24th August 2022, 18:36     #1673
Ab
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Age is relevant in the context of informed consent. One's capacity to be informed differs with age.
And mental state. As well as being overwhelmingly young females, the people presenting with rapid-onset gender dysphoria are far more likely to be on the autism spectrum. Can a person whose neurodivergence causes her to see the world in either/or black/white binaries even grok advice of "give it a few years, this is probably just a phase"?
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Old 24th August 2022, 18:44     #1674
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Hysteria feels better.
I find the usage of that word here extremely ironic and topical - although I doubt it was intended.
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Old 24th August 2022, 18:47     #1675
Ab
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Old 24th August 2022, 20:01     #1676
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I find the usage of that word here extremely ironic and topical - although I doubt it was intended.
When I chose the word I wondered which layer of it would get picked at.
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Old 25th August 2022, 02:08     #1677
DrTiTus
HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE
 
My dance teacher friend has a majority of girls in her classes, and was saying that this gender stuff is quite ridiculous, and some in her teens class are even feeling confused because they're /not/ identifying as one of these new "cliques" eg. non-binary, lesbian/gay, transgender etc.

I understand there are legitimate cases, but I would also suggest that there are significant numbers just "on the bandwagon" - similarly confused by all the "options". You could argue I'm just making shit up, but it's no less made up than hypothetical young people saying they were all "born in the wrong body". Teenagers are trying to find their identity, and we're advertising mental health disorders like it's a menu.

It's one thing to be accepting, it's another thing entirely to encourage it.
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Old 25th August 2022, 06:39     #1678
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My dance teacher friend has a majority of girls in her classes, and was saying that this gender stuff is quite ridiculous
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Old 25th August 2022, 09:30     #1679
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Teenagers are trying to find their identity, and we're advertising mental health disorders like it's a menu.

It's one thing to be accepting, it's another thing entirely to encourage it.
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Old 25th August 2022, 14:17     #1680
Lightspeed
 
People are compelled to find ways to get their needs met in a society that has all value production tightly controlled. We can keep trying to find other things to blame, as evidenced by this thread, but we're just children having tantrums.

Every time some institution that controls access to resources, like medicine, makes a determination "people who fit these criteria deserve resourcing", of course there's going to be a scrabble to see if you or yours can fit that criteria. Periphery concerns become more primary, more personally pressing issues are pushed aside.

I get it tho. Addressing inequality might mean recognising you could go with a bit less. And less is a step on the path to not enough. And we know how poorly it goes for those with not enough.

So let's not talk about inequality, how tight control of resources creates these distortions. Let's not focus on the forces creating these bulges, let's focus on the bulges themselves. Try to squash them back down.

That'll work, right? Surely.
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