The great combined Smrtphone OS thread - Page 331

?>Superman · 26th March 2013, 22:56

@indigo...Figured one of those might do, I might see what options open up in a month or two, nothing excessive required at this stage but there's some decent cheap phones set to come out soon in that range I think.

mpx · 26th March 2013, 23:47

Yeah I think you can get iPhone 3GS for around that price now too. There's a few Samsungs that are pretty good around that price, Galaxy Ace Plus, Galaxy Min, they're pretty user friendly.

I have a friend who is stupid to technology and he's away laughing on a Galaxy Ace Plus. My mum and dad both have the old Galaxy Aces and I've never heard a complaint from them.

I think the 3GS would be the best choice though if it's in that price range, it's very simple in terms of a phone and would be hard to stump anybody.

The cheap smart phones have come along way and, "asking for trouble" because they're not very savvy is a poor response, they'll be fine.

BoyWonder · 26th March 2013, 23:58

1-Day have a refurbished iPhone 3G for $200...

http://www.1-day.co.nz/products/ACMFLPH3H

_indigo1 · 27th March 2013, 00:11

For what it's worth, I brought 4.8" no brand android off 1-day for $250, and it's great. Looks just like an S3 (although it doesn't claim to be one)
Also came with cool stuff like a spare battery etc.

Not everyone's cup of tea obviously. Have no expectation of any firmware updates or anything - and for Joe Blow its probably better he gets setup with a proper warranty/someone to go to if it craps out and he needs a replacement;

But for me, it's excellent for a great price. Great 3D, snappy UI, plenty of space, nice screen, good battery life, etc.

Also, the Galaxy Ace Pro (what non-Telecom vendors will say is the same as the Ace II) is NOT the same as the Ace II. The Ace II has better screen, and is newer.
The Telecom ones are pre-pay, work on 2dm and Voda no probs, and are not locked. You do have to put up with the Telecom logo on boot, though.

They do come with an annoying keyboard (autocomplete features that drive you nuts and wont turn off); but just install 'JellyBean keyboard' from Play and problem solved.

DrTiTus · 27th March 2013, 00:56

http://www.geekbuying.com/item/K820-...ck-314093.html

$99USD

_indigo1 · 27th March 2013, 01:46

Have you actually used that one Titus?

Looks like exactly the kind of one I would avoid like the plague.
Single core 1ghz, Android 4 (ergh, rather have Gingerbread), generally the type that looks cool but when you get it it underperforms, is clunky as hell, and comes with the asian keyboard you can't uninstall, qq-chat, and a whole bunch of os custom stuff that you don't want ..

But that's comments without ever using it. Could be great.

mpx · 27th March 2013, 01:53

Godamn, looking at that HTC One makes me want it more and more. Anyone know what price it would go for over here? Will it even reach our shores?

On the topic of deal site phones, a friend of mine bought one from 1-day and it is pretty much similar to that of a Samsung OS, but there are some hilarious typos, mostly on the drop down shortcut menu bar. The phone itself seemed to work pretty sweet though.

DrTiTus · 27th March 2013, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by _indigo1

Have you actually used that one Titus?

Looks like exactly the kind of one I would avoid like the plague.
Single core 1ghz, Android 4 (ergh, rather have Gingerbread), generally the type that looks cool but when you get it it underperforms, is clunky as hell, and comes with the asian keyboard you can't uninstall, qq-chat, and a whole bunch of os custom stuff that you don't want ..

But that's comments without ever using it. Could be great.

No I haven't. I haven't taken the Pepsi Challenge with a MTK6575 (single core) vs MTK6577 (dual core), so I can't say with any certainty how necessary dual core is. The MediaTek SoC is apparently a really good performer, and I've read and heard that single core is fine and Android doesn't make use of multi-cores very well anyway. That's really your only valid concern, because I'm not into restricting my app compatibility with Gingerbread, and going from Chinese -> Roundeye is not hard.

Does anyone have [experience with] a single core 1GHz Android phone? What chipset is it? How does it perform?

_indigo1 · 27th March 2013, 09:29

Yeah my phone is an MTK6577 and it runs sweet.
I just know from my experiences that with ultra cheap phones you often start out thinking you're getting a deal, but end up paying for it later in usability.

Cyberbob · 27th March 2013, 10:22

iPhone4 is $399 from Telecom.

DrTiTus · 27th March 2013, 10:34

$589 for phone only

Cyberbob · 27th March 2013, 10:41

Ah I stand corrected.

Maybe hit up Trademe for people upgrading to i5?

ceer · 27th March 2013, 11:34

Had a look at my mates new Sony Xperia last night...mainly got it for the dust and water resistant things...he chucked it into a bucket of water for a few minutes...just cos he could...nice phone!

TnT · 27th March 2013, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by p01s0n

buy an iphone holy shit how fucking dumb are you?

Maybe he hates this family member, you don't know the details.

Golden Teapot · 27th March 2013, 19:31

Even if hate was there surely it would still be an iPhone; just one that can't run iOS 6?

Ab · 27th March 2013, 20:59

I've been out and about with an Android 4.x tablet today; came home and picked up the first device I saw, which was one of the kids' iPhone 3Gs running IOS 3, in order to drive tv/stereo/read news, etc. Fuck what a relief.

TnT · 27th March 2013, 21:27

Oh man, lost my iDevice on holiday, have had to resurrect the ol HTC... it's god awful.

MadMax · 27th March 2013, 21:33

using android is like having to use your fingernails to draw on a blackboard.

Shazam · 27th March 2013, 22:00

reading a madmax post is like listening to fingernails on a blackboard.

?>Superman · 27th March 2013, 22:20

mpx · 28th March 2013, 00:33

I've upgraded who I want to leave this thread forever.

Madmax

p01s0n · 28th March 2013, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shazam

reading a madmax post is like listening to fingernails on a blackboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...fSO8xozI#t=74s

DrTiTus · 3rd April 2013, 11:47

iPhones are better at some things - Androids are better at others.

iPhone Supremacy
Did a side by side "Shazam challenge" in a loud room. The iPhone correctly identified songs playing through the Apple TV + stereo. Both my clone phone and a legit Samsung failed to identify the song.
Conclusion: iPhone seems to have better mic quality [or the Apple TV transmits 'currently playing' information to Shazam on iDevices, which is still useful].

Android Supremacy
Used my phone as a hotspot for my Macbook until my migs ran out. Friend offered to use her iPhone as a hotspot coz she had oodles of data left. Macbook - couldn't connect. iPod Touch - couldn't connect.
Conclusion: iPhone hotspot is shit, even with Apple devices connecting to it.

pxpx · 3rd April 2013, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

Conclusion: iPhone hotspot is shit, even with Apple devices connecting to it.

Agreed.

ZoSo · 3rd April 2013, 12:06

Galaxy Mega!

CCS · 3rd April 2013, 12:26

I've never had a problem using Shazam from my Android phone. For me, it's a contest between Shazam and Sound Hound as to which is quickest.

Waldo · 3rd April 2013, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS

I've never had a problem using Shazam from my Android phone. For me, it's a contest between Shazam and Sound Hound as to which is quickest.

I just like shouting SHAZAAAMMMM! tbh

Ab · 3rd April 2013, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

iPhone hotspot is shit, even with Apple devices connecting to it.

This is something that has come up before, and the responses always seem to be either "it never works" or "it always works".

TnT · 3rd April 2013, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

Conclusion: iPhone hotspot is shit, even with Apple devices connecting to it.

Totally agree, but not from a 'it doesn't work at all' perspective. It doesn't work consistently. iPad will connect to it, work for a little while, (sorry that's as 'accurate' as I can get), then iPad no longer has internet connection, even though iPhone is saying the hotspot is active. It annoys the hell out of me. Even my crusty old HTC desire can do this reliably.

p01s0n · 3rd April 2013, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnT

Totally agree, but not from a 'it doesn't work at all' perspective. It doesn't work consistently. iPad will connect to it, work for a little while, (sorry that's as 'accurate' as I can get), then iPad no longer has internet connection, even though iPhone is saying the hotspot is active. It annoys the hell out of me. Even my crusty old HTC desire can do this reliably.

you on optus, cuz?

TnT · 3rd April 2013, 15:05

LOL, no. If I was the iPhone having a shitty hotspot would be the least of my problems.

Cowboy · 3rd April 2013, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnT

Totally agree, but not from a 'it doesn't work at all' perspective. It doesn't work consistently. iPad will connect to it, work for a little while, (sorry that's as 'accurate' as I can get), then iPad no longer has internet connection, even though iPhone is saying the hotspot is active. It annoys the hell out of me. Even my crusty old HTC desire can do this reliably.

I've found that the hotspot screen has to be on the screen for devices to connect to it. They won't connect if you turn hotspot on then go out of the screen before the device connects. Perhaps you had a signal drop out for some reason and then it won't reconnect?

Whether this is by design or not I don't know. Annoying but I hardly ever use it so not much of a deal breaker for me.

As a test, try leaving the hotspot screen open the whole time while using your ipad.

MadMax · 3rd April 2013, 18:47

MadMax · 3rd April 2013, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shazam

reading a madmax post is like listening to fingernails on a blackboard.

reading a shazam post is like using android

fidgit · 3rd April 2013, 20:37

I spent all Christmas/New Years at the inlaws on the outskirts of Dunedin, and used my phone's data so I wasn't raping their (woeful-but-adequate for them) home connection. It worked *flawlessly* with my iPad. I did not encounter a single instance where the connection dropped on my iPad, with regular daily browsing, including some big downloads (that cooking book (250mb) and some other stuff that was part of the Apple 12 Days Of Christmas promo).

I assume people having a whinge about hotspoting their iPhones not working just don't know how to use it correctly? Which is pretty amazing given that you click on "turn on", then click on "connect" on the device that you want to connect (exactly like how you'd do it with an android!).

Maybe you should find a kid and ask them to set it up for you?

*edit*
You do not have to keep the iPhone unlocked or 'screen on' the whole time you use the hotspot. If you back out of the hotspot menu (which I did, a bunch, to keep an eye on my data usage via the vodafone app), it stays connected just fine, and shows a green bar along the top to indicate that's what it's doing. If you lock it... it does the same! It *does* drain the battery fast, but I don't think there's a single phone that wouldn't face that issue while hotspotting.

_indigo1 · 4th April 2013, 01:10

Translation: It worked for me, therefore everyone who had issues must be wrong or a retard

TnT · 4th April 2013, 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidgit

I spent all Christmas/New Years at the inlaws on the outskirts of Dunedin, and used my phone's data so I wasn't raping their (woeful-but-adequate for them) home connection. It worked *flawlessly* with my iPad. I did not encounter a single instance where the connection dropped on my iPad, with regular daily browsing, including some big downloads (that cooking book (250mb) and some other stuff that was part of the Apple 12 Days Of Christmas promo).

I assume people having a whinge about hotspoting their iPhones not working just don't know how to use it correctly? Which is pretty amazing given that you click on "turn on", then click on "connect" on the device that you want to connect (exactly like how you'd do it with an android!).

Maybe you should find a kid and ask them to set it up for you?

That's a really long way of saying 'Hey everyone look at me, I'm a total fucking wanker'

Cyberbob · 4th April 2013, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnT

Totally agree, but not from a 'it doesn't work at all' perspective. It doesn't work consistently. iPad will connect to it, work for a little while, (sorry that's as 'accurate' as I can get), then iPad no longer has internet connection, even though iPhone is saying the hotspot is active. It annoys the hell out of me. Even my crusty old HTC desire can do this reliably.

My iPad does that with regular wireless when my router is too close to the cordless phone.

Anything around that could be interfering with it?

Pimp-X · 4th April 2013, 10:35

Welp.. I keep saying that I never have any wifi issues, or tethering issues with any of my i-devices. Or i-devices to non-i-devices.

Dunno what to tell ya. It just does what it says it's doing...

Dazza · 4th April 2013, 13:02

I have had wifi issues with apple devices, certain access point chipsets with more than so many active users.

And also certain IOS versions + specific apple device and WPA2 encryption.

Both are well documented problems on the Apple forums.

26th March 2013, 23:47	#13202
mpx .	Yeah I think you can get iPhone 3GS for around that price now too. There's a few Samsungs that are pretty good around that price, Galaxy Ace Plus, Galaxy Min, they're pretty user friendly. I have a friend who is stupid to technology and he's away laughing on a Galaxy Ace Plus. My mum and dad both have the old Galaxy Aces and I've never heard a complaint from them. I think the 3GS would be the best choice though if it's in that price range, it's very simple in terms of a phone and would be hard to stump anybody. The cheap smart phones have come along way and, "asking for trouble" because they're not very savvy is a poor response, they'll be fine. Last edited by mpx : 26th March 2013 at 23:48.

27th March 2013, 00:56	#13205
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	http://www.geekbuying.com/item/K820-...ck-314093.html $99USD __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

27th March 2013, 10:34	#13211
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	$589 for phone only __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

27th March 2013, 21:33	#13218
MadMax Stuff	using android is like having to use your fingernails to draw on a blackboard. __________________ My degree of sarcasm depends on your degree of stupidity.

3rd April 2013, 11:47	#13223
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	iPhones are better at some things - Androids are better at others. iPhone Supremacy Did a side by side "Shazam challenge" in a loud room. The iPhone correctly identified songs playing through the Apple TV + stereo. Both my clone phone and a legit Samsung failed to identify the song. Conclusion: iPhone seems to have better mic quality [or the Apple TV transmits 'currently playing' information to Shazam on iDevices, which is still useful]. Android Supremacy Used my phone as a hotspot for my Macbook until my migs ran out. Friend offered to use her iPhone as a hotspot coz she had oodles of data left. Macbook - couldn't connect. iPod Touch - couldn't connect. Conclusion: iPhone hotspot is shit, even with Apple devices connecting to it. __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

26th March 2013, 22:56	#13201
?>Superman	@indigo...Figured one of those might do, I might see what options open up in a month or two, nothing excessive required at this stage but there's some decent cheap phones set to come out soon in that range I think.

26th March 2013, 23:58	#13203
BoyWonder	1-Day have a refurbished iPhone 3G for $200... http://www.1-day.co.nz/products/ACMFLPH3H

27th March 2013, 00:11	#13204
_indigo1	For what it's worth, I brought 4.8" no brand android off 1-day for $250, and it's great. Looks just like an S3 (although it doesn't claim to be one) Also came with cool stuff like a spare battery etc. Not everyone's cup of tea obviously. Have no expectation of any firmware updates or anything - and for Joe Blow its probably better he gets setup with a proper warranty/someone to go to if it craps out and he needs a replacement; But for me, it's excellent for a great price. Great 3D, snappy UI, plenty of space, nice screen, good battery life, etc. Also, the Galaxy Ace Pro (what non-Telecom vendors will say is the same as the Ace II) is NOT the same as the Ace II. The Ace II has better screen, and is newer. The Telecom ones are pre-pay, work on 2dm and Voda no probs, and are not locked. You do have to put up with the Telecom logo on boot, though. They do come with an annoying keyboard (autocomplete features that drive you nuts and wont turn off); but just install 'JellyBean keyboard' from Play and problem solved. Last edited by _indigo1 : 27th March 2013 at 00:15.

27th March 2013, 01:46	#13206
_indigo1	Have you actually used that one Titus? Looks like exactly the kind of one I would avoid like the plague. Single core 1ghz, Android 4 (ergh, rather have Gingerbread), generally the type that looks cool but when you get it it underperforms, is clunky as hell, and comes with the asian keyboard you can't uninstall, qq-chat, and a whole bunch of os custom stuff that you don't want .. But that's comments without ever using it. Could be great.

27th March 2013, 01:53	#13207
mpx .	Godamn, looking at that HTC One makes me want it more and more. Anyone know what price it would go for over here? Will it even reach our shores? On the topic of deal site phones, a friend of mine bought one from 1-day and it is pretty much similar to that of a Samsung OS, but there are some hilarious typos, mostly on the drop down shortcut menu bar. The phone itself seemed to work pretty sweet though.

27th March 2013, 09:29	#13209
_indigo1	Yeah my phone is an MTK6577 and it runs sweet. I just know from my experiences that with ultra cheap phones you often start out thinking you're getting a deal, but end up paying for it later in usability.

27th March 2013, 10:22	#13210
Cyberbob	iPhone4 is $399 from Telecom. __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

27th March 2013, 10:41	#13212
Cyberbob	Ah I stand corrected. Maybe hit up Trademe for people upgrading to i5? __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

27th March 2013, 11:34	#13213
ceer	Had a look at my mates new Sony Xperia last night...mainly got it for the dust and water resistant things...he chucked it into a bucket of water for a few minutes...just cos he could...nice phone!

27th March 2013, 19:31	#13215
Golden Teapot Love, Actuary	Even if hate was there surely it would still be an iPhone; just one that can't run iOS 6?

27th March 2013, 20:59	#13216
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	I've been out and about with an Android 4.x tablet today; came home and picked up the first device I saw, which was one of the kids' iPhone 3Gs running IOS 3, in order to drive tv/stereo/read news, etc. Fuck what a relief.

27th March 2013, 21:27	#13217
TnT	Oh man, lost my iDevice on holiday, have had to resurrect the ol HTC... it's god awful.

27th March 2013, 22:00	#13219
Shazam	reading a madmax post is like listening to fingernails on a blackboard.

28th March 2013, 00:33	#13221
mpx .	I've upgraded who I want to leave this thread forever. Madmax

3rd April 2013, 12:26	#13226
CCS Stunt Pants	I've never had a problem using Shazam from my Android phone. For me, it's a contest between Shazam and Sound Hound as to which is quickest. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

3rd April 2013, 15:05	#13231
TnT	LOL, no. If I was the iPhone having a shitty hotspot would be the least of my problems.

3rd April 2013, 18:47	#13233
MadMax Stuff	dbl __________________ My degree of sarcasm depends on your degree of stupidity. Last edited by MadMax : 3rd April 2013 at 18:49.

3rd April 2013, 20:37	#13235
fidgit Always itchy	I spent all Christmas/New Years at the inlaws on the outskirts of Dunedin, and used my phone's data so I wasn't raping their (woeful-but-adequate for them) home connection. It worked flawlessly with my iPad. I did not encounter a single instance where the connection dropped on my iPad, with regular daily browsing, including some big downloads (that cooking book (250mb) and some other stuff that was part of the Apple 12 Days Of Christmas promo). I assume people having a whinge about hotspoting their iPhones not working just don't know how to use it correctly? Which is pretty amazing given that you click on "turn on", then click on "connect" on the device that you want to connect (exactly like how you'd do it with an android!). Maybe you should find a kid and ask them to set it up for you? edit You do not have to keep the iPhone unlocked or 'screen on' the whole time you use the hotspot. If you back out of the hotspot menu (which I did, a bunch, to keep an eye on my data usage via the vodafone app), it stays connected just fine, and shows a green bar along the top to indicate that's what it's doing. If you lock it... it does the same! It does drain the battery fast, but I don't think there's a single phone that wouldn't face that issue while hotspotting. __________________ 4 7 2 3 9 8 5...1 4 2 9 7 8...14 16 22...36° Last edited by fidgit : 3rd April 2013 at 20:39.

4th April 2013, 01:10	#13236
_indigo1	Translation: It worked for me, therefore everyone who had issues must be wrong or a retard

4th April 2013, 10:35	#13239
Pimp-X Drunken Annoying Superhero Bastard	Welp.. I keep saying that I never have any wifi issues, or tethering issues with any of my i-devices. Or i-devices to non-i-devices. Dunno what to tell ya. It just does what it says it's doing... __________________ If there is one movement I could get behind in this world, it would be the discrimination and abuse of fucking idiots.

4th April 2013, 13:02	#13240
Dazza	I have had wifi issues with apple devices, certain access point chipsets with more than so many active users. And also certain IOS versions + specific apple device and WPA2 encryption. Both are well documented problems on the Apple forums.