I am not a racist but...

[p01s0n]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I had my annual "discussion" with a family member who blames all of NZs woes on the "bloody Maoris". This year I tried a different tack, I said "look how about we do this, instead of talking about the Maoris let me tell you about a group of people you really can blame for everything".

I then went on to talk at length about the finance industry, the GFC and generally the countless reasons why we should be rounding these fucking bankers up and whipping them through the streets. Solid 15 minutes of "shit seriously?" "is that right?" "pack of bastards" and nodding. Then when I was done I said "right, so as you can see even if you were right about the Maori you have a bigger enemy to direct your hatred towards".

"Yeah that's pretty bad... but... the Maori want to claim the airwaves and seas!"

FFUUUUUU, now I'm convinced it's not a political stance, it's a fucking neurological problem.

you might find life a lot less frustrating when socialising if you just accept the simple fact that some people are idiots and not worth catering to.

[Baal]

^
Smile, nod and move the fuck on.

[Lightspeed]

Some people just need a "dark other" to blame the world's ills on. That way when you see your non-darkness, you can be assured the world's problems aren't anything about you.

[doppelgänger of someone]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

..Without describing what she was wearing?

No pics, so it may not have happened.

It was most definitely feminine. Something like this:



My understanding is that the neckline for a business suit is acceptable as long as you can't see sideboobs or bra.

The male equivalent would be something like this:



Definitely masculine, because you can see the broad shoulders even with everything on.

[p01s0n]

oh so the male equivalent of a suit would be a suit.

good to know.

thanks OP.

[Golden Teapot]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I then went on to talk at length about the finance industry, the GFC and generally the countless reasons why we should be rounding these fucking bankers up and whipping them through the streets.

One could equally talk at length about the great good done over centuries by the finance industry.

In terms of the very narrow range of events that you're presumably referring to there are a couple of things to consider. First, nobody living in NZ or AU really appreciates what happened since by and large we were unaffected - any knowledge is biased by the lenses of commentators many of whom are not even trying to be balanced. Second, it wasn't really the banks to blame but the greed of those that found themselves on the receiving ends of the instruments used.

In my view the greedy people include those who took loans having no capacity to repay them.

[Lightspeed]

That is definitely true of some individuals. But I doubt of many and certainly far from all. I mean, I don't think you can conclude a person greedy who gets a loan and is given a loan assured by this person's employment and the stable state of the economy. Economy tanks, people lose jobs, loans can't be repaid, economy tanks further... which ones are the greedy ones again?

While historical financial institutions and of course many current ones facilitate functions essential to our lives, all evidence points to an endemically corrupt finance industry. From your CSRs getting commissions on loans not looking closely at applications, to whatever that core financial system was where it was exposed that the individuals running it were fudging the numbers for their own companies' benefit.

From fucking top to bottom the finance industry as it is right now is a complete grift.

[Lightspeed]

Oh that's right, I'm ignored by GT. Perhaps he'll remind us of that again sometime soon.

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by Golden Teapot

One could equally talk at length about the great good done over centuries by the finance industry.

In terms of the very narrow range of events that you're presumably referring to there are a couple of things to consider. First, nobody living in NZ or AU really appreciates what happened since by and large we were unaffected - any knowledge is biased by the lenses of commentators many of whom are not even trying to be balanced. Second, it wasn't really the banks to blame but the greed of those that found themselves on the receiving ends of the instruments used.

In my view the greedy people include those who took loans having no capacity to repay them.

I just *love* how finance industry apologists such as yourself still enjoy to pontificate from an assumed position of authoritative knowledge and superior understanding despite the fact that everything you know was proven to be built on sand and came crashing down in a screaming flaming heap over the GFC. You GT are exactly the type of person the story of the emperor with no clothes was intended to portray.

I'm still pushing for punitive, punishing, extracting taxes on the entire industry, wipe the fucking scum clean. Here's just one fun fact among many, take the figures provided by the City of London about their contribution to the UK economy. Compare that figure over 10 years to the damage estimated by the IMF during the GFC and it comes out at 6:1, for every pound they made over 10 years they lost 6 during the GFC.

You and everything you know is utterly worthless GT, if I had my way we would drive you through the streets whipped and beaten until not a single smug bastard like you is left. Finance is a toxic industry, if these motherfuckers were terrorists and threatened to do this to us we would order a drone strike. We should, if there was an ounce of justice in this world we’d storm the trading floors and shoot every last bastard in defence of what’s left of the real economy.

I propose we start with you just because you're a cunt.

[p01s0n]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I just *love* how finance industry apologists such as yourself still enjoy to pontificate from an assumed position of authoritative knowledge and superior understanding despite the fact that everything you know was proven to be built on sand and came crashing down in a screaming flaming heap over the GFC. You GT are exactly the type of person the story of the emperor with no clothes was intended to portray.

I'm still pushing for punitive, punishing, extracting taxes on the entire industry, wipe the fucking scum clean. Here's just one fun fact among many, take the figures provided by the City of London about their contribution to the UK economy. Compare that figure over 10 years to the damage estimated by the IMF during the GFC and it comes out at 6:1, for every pound they made over 10 years they lost 6 during the GFC.

You and everything you know is utterly worthless GT, if I had my way we would drive you through the streets whipped and beaten until not a single smug bastard like you is left. Finance is a toxic industry, if these motherfuckers were terrorists and threatened to do this to us we would order a drone strike. We should, if there was an ounce of justice in this world we’d storm the trading floors and shoot every last bastard in defence of what’s left of the real economy.

I propose we start with you just because you're a cunt.

reddit is that way bro

[Ab]

I think this exchange can be summed up by the 25 seconds from 05:20 to 05:45 of The Boondocks S02E04.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...7CmBtBY#t=320s

[Spink]

I really like doppelganger's image leeching owned image, it's so subtle. (it used to be a guy in a suit)

[chubby]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I just *love* how finance industry apologists such as yourself still enjoy to pontificate from an assumed position of authoritative knowledge and superior understanding despite the fact that everything you know was proven to be built on sand and came crashing down in a screaming flaming heap over the GFC. You GT are exactly the type of person the story of the emperor with no clothes was intended to portray.

I'm still pushing for punitive, punishing, extracting taxes on the entire industry, wipe the fucking scum clean. Here's just one fun fact among many, take the figures provided by the City of London about their contribution to the UK economy. Compare that figure over 10 years to the damage estimated by the IMF during the GFC and it comes out at 6:1, for every pound they made over 10 years they lost 6 during the GFC.

You and everything you know is utterly worthless GT, if I had my way we would drive you through the streets whipped and beaten until not a single smug bastard like you is left. Finance is a toxic industry, if these motherfuckers were terrorists and threatened to do this to us we would order a drone strike. We should, if there was an ounce of justice in this world we’d storm the trading floors and shoot every last bastard in defence of what’s left of the real economy.

I propose we start with you just because you're a cunt.

hear,hear.
bravo.

[pervy]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I just *love* how finance industry apologists such as yourself still enjoy to pontificate from an assumed position of authoritative knowledge and superior understanding despite the fact that everything you know was proven to be built on sand and came crashing down in a screaming flaming heap over the GFC. You GT are exactly the type of person the story of the emperor with no clothes was intended to portray.

I'm still pushing for punitive, punishing, extracting taxes on the entire industry, wipe the fucking scum clean. Here's just one fun fact among many, take the figures provided by the City of London about their contribution to the UK economy. Compare that figure over 10 years to the damage estimated by the IMF during the GFC and it comes out at 6:1, for every pound they made over 10 years they lost 6 during the GFC.

You and everything you know is utterly worthless GT, if I had my way we would drive you through the streets whipped and beaten until not a single smug bastard like you is left. Finance is a toxic industry, if these motherfuckers were terrorists and threatened to do this to us we would order a drone strike. We should, if there was an ounce of justice in this world we’d storm the trading floors and shoot every last bastard in defence of what’s left of the real economy.

I propose we start with you just because you're a cunt.

[Saladin]

Will the people that write software for the finance industry be spared? I was only following orders!

[Ab]

Y'all realise that GT is an actuary, right? You sound like a bunch of rednecks abusing Nate Silver because Romney lost.

[aR Que]

HE'S WITH THEM! GET HIM!

[[Malks] Pixie]

I'm sure pretty much everyone here knows what GT does for a living.

Both sets of arguments have validty to them - the finance industry has both provided some great gains to societies at times, as well as doing obscene harm at other times.

Pixie

[CCS]

Golden Teapot kicked my dog.

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by Ab

Y'all realise that GT is an actuary, right? You sound like a bunch of rednecks abusing Nate Silver because Romney lost.

I didn't accuse him of been behind it, just an apologist, and a cunt.

[pervy]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I didn't accuse him of been behind it, just an apologist, and a cunt.

Both highly accurate if you ask me.

[Ab]

I can only assume that Xanatos pays for all products and services by barter.

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by Ab

I can only assume that Xanatos pays for all products and services by barter.

My stance on fiscal conservatism is slightly more nuanced but I'll leave that discussion for later as I probably poisioned the well when I called GT a cunt (I still stand by that statement however).

[xor]

How about them Jews eh?

[chubby]

yes,but back to the topic at hand,gt being a cunt and and apologist.

[p01s0n]

GT actually owns and lol if you can't see why.

[xor]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

That is definitely true of some individuals. But I doubt of many and certainly far from all. I mean, I don't think you can conclude a person greedy who gets a loan and is given a loan assured by this person's employment and the stable state of the economy. Economy tanks, people lose jobs, loans can't be repaid, economy tanks further... which ones are the greedy ones again?

It's all a game of risk imo.

Example: I have a mortgage on bit of an el cheapo house as far as Auckland prices go. I put a lot of additional payments into my mortgage to reduce the debt. My mate has just bought his 3rd home within 1 year. All he owns is debt. If the market takes a dive then he's fucked, if not then obviously he is rewarded.

[aR Que]

i read a bit into actuaries, cause frankly, i had no fucking idea. was pretty keen to get on that shit, as, you know, the stacks. But 5 years more studying? fuck that. CPD pisses me off enough.

Originally Posted by xor

I have a mortgage on bit of an el cheapo house

solid.

[xor]

[StN]

Originally Posted by aR Que

But 5 years more studying? fuck that.

You must have missed the post where a chick took her top off in the exam because it was too hot (Read to psych out the other chaps)

[pxpx]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I'm still pushing for punitive, punishing, extracting taxes on the entire industry,

How are you 'pushing' for this by the way? Serious question.

[Heresy]

by not showering.

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by pxpx

How are you 'pushing' for this by the way? Serious question.

Between voting you mean? Don't laugh but letters to my MP, in the UK I used:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

People are quick to mock writing letters but between voting it's one of the best way to get things changed and there are few things quite as satisfying as having one read out in parliment. A politely written letter that backs each statement up by citing your source works wonders. Also in the UK the replies come on some of the nicest letterhead you've ever seen.

The responses in the UK were overall better than those I've recieved in AU, for example the office of Julia Gillard teaches a masters course in passive agressive responses when you write concerning Julian Assange.

[Golden Teapot]

Originally Posted by aR Que

i read a bit into actuaries, cause frankly, i had no fucking idea. was pretty keen to get on that shit, as, you know, the stacks. But 5 years more studying? fuck that. CPD pisses me off enough.

$150k for a newly qualified actuary. Twice that ten years later if they're any good. Most people will think of this as high income for being an employee. And, think 8 years in NZ. 40 hours CPD requirement too.

[aR Que]

Originally Posted by Golden Teapot

$150k for a newly qualified actuary. 40 hours CPD requirement too.

that sucks. I'm pretty much on my cap without going into a managerial role and i'm nowhere near that.

[Cyberbob]

What is the difference between a English actuary and a Sicilian actuary?

An English actuary can tell you how many people are going to die next year. A Sicilian actuary can give you their names and addresses.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by aR Que

that sucks. I'm pretty much on my cap without going into a managerial role and i'm nowhere near that.

Surely you're only on your first or second of three or four careers? Yo' life gonn be long, sucker. Barring likely global calamity.

Obviously this depends on your origins, but first "career" for us working class folk is just figuring out what it's like to actually be part of an industry or profession, get a feel for the whole working thing, build up some personal resources. Then after that and a bit of growing up you start to look out at the world and start considering what it is you really want to do.

Or whatever... that's just how I see things.

[aR Que]

Does that mean more study?... fuck. The bitches are nice... but... maaaaan.

[Lightspeed]

I think of it more as discovery than study. I loves me some learnin's. But yeah, if you need a constant supply of loot and booty, taking a break from being a working man can be tough.

[Farmer Joe]

Straya cunt!

Caught on camera: racist Australians abuse girl & smash bus window
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6J6PF47CM