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13th May 2020, 18:11 | #922 |
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I'm glad that she has completely destroyed old stereotypes about who can & can't be a competent leader. It was only a few years ago that many people had pretty entrenched ideas such as you had to be a certain age, you couldn't have kindness & compassion as your foundation and you had to have had work experience in a field they judge to be of value. Oh and you could never do it effectively with a newborn; unless you were a man of course.
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18th May 2020, 19:39 | #923 | |
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18th May 2020, 20:52 | #924 |
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You reckon those number will sustain moderately well come election time? If the government to keeps playing steady-as-she-goes like they have, we surely won't face the kind of drama that's going to play out elsewhere, and it will show.
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19th May 2020, 01:05 | #925 |
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It's hard to say for sure. If we have a bad second wave of covid, that could certainly change the way people vote, especially after the trauma of the lockdown. If people felt like it had all been a waste of time then I think they might be inclined to take that feeling out at the polling booth. If that came to pass it would be a terrible shame, because I can't imagine how awful shit would have been if we'd had the fucking incompetents in National at the helm at this moment in history.
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19th May 2020, 01:09 | #926 |
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Nah, if there's a second wave and the shit hits the fan people will love Jacinda even more. It was that nasty Simon Bridges and all those capitalists who wanted the restrictions lifted.
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19th May 2020, 01:17 | #927 |
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Well shit, Ab, I like your optimism!
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19th May 2020, 09:03 | #928 |
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Wow. The left block is roughly double the right block. It's nice when public sentiment aligns with the fact that neo-liberalism is bad.
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19th May 2020, 10:19 | #929 | |
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If they don't see what all the fuss was about - GOOD. It just doesn't play off well politically.
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19th May 2020, 15:24 | #931 |
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Correlates is probably a better word than aligns. Neo-liberalism is objectively bad and because Labour/Greens are quite a lot less neo-liberal than National & Act then it's great when they're popular. Regardless of whether voters understand this or not.
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How does the picking and choosing of experts like lawyers rate on the neolib scale?
Is that even worth consideration? Are experts even necessary? Probably not, right?
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19th May 2020, 17:46 | #934 |
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What's neoliberalism again? For the purposes of this discussion I mean. The thing by which fixed_truth is judging the NZ political parties.
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19th May 2020, 17:57 | #935 |
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I've come to understand it as a 1984-esque version of liberalism. A bunch of power loving, money grubbing, people hating fucks over the last century or so cooking up strategies to separate people from their decisions so they can be made for them.
That's what we see right? Wealth, power, decision making concentrated into the hands of the few? Inequality, injustice, even in our most developed nations.
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19th May 2020, 18:08 | #936 |
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Yeah ideas like free market, privatisation and minimum government intervention. Minimising taxes, anti unions, trickle down. Inequality as a result of of personal effort, ignoring inherent advantages. Stuff like that.
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19th May 2020, 18:11 | #937 |
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It doesn't sound like you guys are talking about the same thing at all.
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19th May 2020, 18:18 | #938 |
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We're definitely not. I don't know f_t, we haven't discussed any of this before hand.
Any agreement or disagreement will have to manifest here. And I'm a layperson on such matters. But we've already established the value of expertise, so I don't know why I bring it up.
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20th May 2020, 00:46 | #939 |
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I wonder if it's like talking about Marxism, Bolshevism and Communism. They're all different things, but they're all conflated.
In a neoliberal world, how does a dummy like me answer the question "what's neoliberalism"? Neoliberalism is the way of the world. The 1984-esque nature doesn't help. Defence means war, protecting ourselves means attacking others, investment strategies means funding cuts.
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26th May 2020, 13:55 | #940 |
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David Harvey's A Brief History of Neoliberalism
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28th May 2020, 01:08 | #942 |
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Labour to push through compulsory internet filtering, because Labour
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28th May 2020, 01:50 | #943 |
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I mean, personally, given that the purpose of the filtering is to shut down stuff that is intended to radicalise the next would-be Christchurch shooter, I'm actually okay with it.
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2nd June 2020, 21:39 | #946 |
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This looks decent:
Government reveals free trades training for next 2.5 years It'll be interesting to see how they ramp up training capacity quickly. It's what we need though.
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2nd June 2020, 21:46 | #947 |
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Oh hey, here's a really cool read about how neoliberalism is basically the path to inverted totalitarianism. Thanks, National party supporters (and also the 1984 Labour government, and in particular Roger Douglas, founder of ACT.)
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sh...talitarianism/ Last edited by Nothing : 2nd June 2020 at 21:47. |
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Interesting. I'll read more. Ta.
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7th June 2020, 11:51 | #951 |
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NZ First MP Shane Jones to stand in Northland at election
Will be interesting to see if his big spend up greased up the electorate enough.
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16th June 2020, 13:28 | #953 |
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Had such high hopes for KD.
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16th June 2020, 13:30 | #954 |
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Hey remember when Jacinda gave us all the empathy feels by announcing that she and other Ministers in the government would be taking a 20% pay cut in solidarity with the public during the COVID economic crunch?
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Also as the mask continues to slip: it's an election year and the Māori electorates currently held by Labour will be crucial, so whaddya know a government review has concluded that all Māori media activity should be centralised at the government-controlled Māori Television.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/12-06-...overhaul-plan/ Yeah I know there was a multimillion-dollar COVID bailout package for non-Māori media outlets to ensure a broad range of voices was maintained, but those media channels won't win us the Māori seats bro Quote:
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19th June 2020, 15:54 | #956 |
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Latest development - interrupt me if you’ve heard this one before - Labour appears to have no idea what it’s doing
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19th June 2020, 17:41 | #957 |
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TBH Ab, yeah, I have heard that one before. It's a bit stale tbh.
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19th June 2020, 18:50 | #958 |
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Labour silencing all Maori media except the one it can directly control is a thing. I actually care bout this one
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19th June 2020, 22:44 | #959 |
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I mean, yea. I get it, on a whole bunch of different levels. I'll even agree with you that not only does it look dodgy, but is actually actively shitty. But this is the political world we live in, and what would you have us do? Vote National back in? In these conditions?
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20th June 2020, 08:57 | #960 |
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A fair number of people still seem to think Jacinda is best placed to run the country, as opposed to Todd:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...s-mullermehtum |