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Old 13th May 2016, 16:40     #81
crocos
 
CCS and Ab have feregn treests. Don' leesten tou 'em!
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Old 13th May 2016, 16:41     #82
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I guess leaving the data on a computer and just using grep never occurred to them. Gotta print that shit out and look for words and highlight stuff in yellow for the photographs!
Actually if I was going through that much info, I'd rather find it on the printed form and then index it on the electronic copy.
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Old 13th May 2016, 16:54     #83
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Actually if I was going through that much info, I'd rather find it on the printed form
you = insane
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Old 13th May 2016, 16:57     #84
CCS
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Greping doesn't requiring journalistic nous. It's not as serious as journalising and collaborising.

Look at this shit:





They're practically the same! Except one has a sweet timelapse and no ashtrays.
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Old 13th May 2016, 17:15     #85
Ab
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Look at this shit:



So that's a feed from a camera covering the cameraman covering the journalists looking at their laptops? I hope the journalists aren't watching the live feed, because that would be like crossing the streams to kill your own grandfather before he led the resistance.
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Old 13th May 2016, 17:30     #86
CCS
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Yeah. Or it would be like looking at yourself in the mirror while jerking off.
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Old 13th May 2016, 17:46     #87
pxpx
 
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Yeah. Or it would be like looking at yourself in the mirror while jerking off.
Pretty sure thats what Hager would have been doing each night after spending so much time around actual employed 'journalists' in "the war room".
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Old 13th May 2016, 19:45     #88
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
It reminds me of nothing so much as the Hillary Clinton Benghazapalooza.

"This is it! The smoking gun! No-one believed that John Key was a lizardman in the employ of the Illuminati, but they have to listen to us now!"
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Old 13th May 2016, 22:58     #89
madmaxii
 
Any news organisation that uses Nicky Hagar as a collaborator fucks me off. Nearly switched to TV3.
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Old 16th May 2016, 20:55     #90
Lightspeed
 
I hate to quote Kim Dotcom:
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John Key's tax haven defense sounds much like Megaupload: "We are just a service provider. Not responsible for unlawful conduct by users."
But... that's a fair burn.
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Old 16th May 2016, 21:30     #91
Ab
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No it's not, because THERE IS NO UNLAWFUL CONDUCT.

That's the braindead false-equivalence shit that TEH LEFT are regurgitating and they don't understand why people are sick of it.

Stuff is happening.
The stuff involves money.
John Key has money.
We hate John Key.
Therefore we hate the stuff that's happening.
We are good and true so we could never hate something for no reason.
Therefore there must be something dodgy about the stuff that's happening.

CHEKCMATE ATHIESTS
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Old 16th May 2016, 21:47     #92
Lightspeed
 
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No it's not
Sure it is. Mega Upload is expected only to facilitate legal practices. Laws governing tax havens are expected only to facilitate moral practices.

Legal and legitimate is thrown around as a defence by any number of scum bags.
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Old 16th May 2016, 23:32     #93
CCS
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Wacked

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Laws governing tax havens are expected only to facilitate moral practices.
wat
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Old 17th May 2016, 00:16     #94
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Legal and legitimate is thrown around as a defence by any number of scum bags.
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Unfortunately, the New Zealand tax administration doesn’t collect much information about foreign trusts with New Zealand resident trustees. If you look at the IRD’s Foreign Trust Disclosure Form, you will see that all a trustee has to disclose is the name of the trust, the name of the trustee, and whether or not the settlor (the person who gives property to the trust) is resident in Australia.

This all makes it very easy indeed for foreigners to channel money through trusts with a New Zealand trustee. It pushes us dangerously close to being a tax haven, and in fact, there are plenty of tax consultants and trustee firms advertising their services to enable people to take advantage of the laws. This very much suggests that we are in fact, operating as a tax haven.
https://deborahfrussell.net/2016/04/...oreign-trusts/
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Old 17th May 2016, 00:24     #95
Ab
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And I should care because...?
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Old 17th May 2016, 00:55     #96
fixed_truth
 
. . . because although it's perfectly legal we're facilitating very rich people to avoid financial contributions which societies are depend on to function?
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Old 17th May 2016, 12:57     #97
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This article that is linked to in that blog post is probably the best I've read during the whole debate:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10844389
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Old 17th May 2016, 16:15     #98
Lightspeed
 
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And I should care because...?
Because you care about your children's future?
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Old 17th May 2016, 16:34     #99
Ab
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And that future is affected by this in what way?
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Old 17th May 2016, 17:40     #100
Lightspeed
 
In complex ways no doubt. The question is, do you want to have a say, or would you rather the wealth the world generates be largely out of your awareness and control?
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Old 18th May 2016, 10:13     #101
Juju
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The question is, do you want to have a say, or would you rather the wealth the world generates be largely out of your awareness and control?
So you're proposing that the wealth the world generates should be in Ab's control?
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Old 18th May 2016, 13:02     #102
crocos
 
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So you're proposing that the wealth the world generates should be in Ab's control?
No, he's proposing that the public has a say.
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