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Old 7th October 2008, 16:33     #401
Rocket
 
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HDR TUTORIAL: SECRETS TO HDR

http://picturephotosoncanvas.com/?p=204
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Old 7th October 2008, 17:53     #402
VERT
 
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HDR TUTORIAL: SECRETS TO HDR

http://picturephotosoncanvas.com/?p=204
wow that's a really bad write-up, why use full manual settings when its far easier to use Aperture priority and LOL at the manual adjustment for shutter speed when that is what auto bracketing it for
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Old 7th October 2008, 19:08     #403
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What

aperture priority dose not allow you to control your shutter speed and that is what is needed for HDR photos. Most dslr's only allow you to bracket three shots and typically not in connection with aperture priority in any cases that I have ever seen.
Obviously you have much to learn about HDR photography and should be careful in you criticisms.
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Old 7th October 2008, 19:17     #404
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Auto-bracketing is how you achieve HDR shots if you are a chump.

Real photographers will manually adjust the exposure dependent on the dynamic light conditions, and the result they are after. Therein lies the skill required for photography.
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Old 7th October 2008, 21:41     #405
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Auto-bracketing is how you achieve HDR shots if you are a chump.

Real photographers will manually adjust the exposure dependent on the dynamic light conditions, and the result they are after. Therein lies the skill required for photography.
QFT.
HDR through actually adjusting the exposures yourself ftw
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Old 7th October 2008, 22:12     #406
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My course teacher last year showed us the most simple method of first framing your shot, then zoom-metering on all the areas with different light levels (potentially requiring changes to whether you're using spot or centre-weighted / evaluative metering), and then average the overall exposure when you re-compose - obviously taking as much care as possible not to blow out any areas.

Adopting that approach has seen a massive improvement in the usability of my shots in post-processing, and often results in not having to do much post-work with light levels at all (obvious exceptions being massively high-contrast shots). Of course, you look like an ADD sufferer trying to take your shot...

PS: Full manual. Always.
PPS: Unless giving my camera to someone else to take a shot
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Old 7th October 2008, 22:22     #407
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Hrm... I usually use Aperture Priority. Then again I'm still in the very early stages of learning how to properly compose + I know half of sfa about the practical application of metering or levels.
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Old 7th October 2008, 22:28     #408
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aperture priority dose not allow you to control your shutter speed and that is what is needed for HDR photos. Most dslr's only allow you to bracket three shots and typically not in connection with aperture priority in any cases that I have ever seen.
Obviously you have much to learn about HDR photography and should be careful in you criticisms.
Duh, aperture priority will let you set a static aperture which is what you want for HDR and the auto bracketing will control your shutter speed appropriately.

If you cant do auto bracketing with aperture priority on your camera I would doubt you would be able to do it any other setting too.

I think you have much to learn about the usage of your camera.
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Old 7th October 2008, 22:32     #409
VERT
 
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Auto-bracketing is how you achieve HDR shots if you are a chump.

Real photographers will manually adjust the exposure dependent on the dynamic light conditions, and the result they are after. Therein lies the skill required for photography.
So where are your HDR shots? Mr real photographer, LOL
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Old 7th October 2008, 22:50     #410
madmaxii
 
Um, we're getting sidetracked here - this is meant to be a gallery. Perhaps this page could be moved to the Camera Question thread. I would like to see some more stunning pictures from the camera artists - there are plenty of you out there, looking at the earlier pages
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Old 7th October 2008, 22:57     #411
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I thought I'd put my money where my mouth is. EOS 400D with the standard kit lens:
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Old 7th October 2008, 23:03     #412
madmaxii
 
Bloody Hell - stuffed that one up - trying again:

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Old 7th October 2008, 23:04     #413
madmaxii
 
Jeez - I fail at this

Try this:http://www.madmaxii.co.nz/turkey/slides/IMG_0424.html
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Old 7th October 2008, 23:15     #414
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<baaaaahleeted>.

Ab: Please nuke this post at your earliest convenience!
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Old 7th October 2008, 23:23     #415
madmaxii
 
Yeah Crocos - Agreed - other than the comment on lack of pictures - thanks.
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Old 8th October 2008, 00:29     #416
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Some more from my recent trip:



















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Old 8th October 2008, 00:30     #417
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Sorry for the spam - as usual, constructive criticism welcome
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Old 8th October 2008, 00:34     #418
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Old 8th October 2008, 00:36     #419
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Mav'rick you betcha.
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Old 8th October 2008, 00:45     #420
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My favourites in no particular order would be:

The tram. Nice action shot, looks full of energy.

Tunnel entrance at sun rise/set(?) - nice colours, well balanced composition.

Looking up through the buildings. Not sure how to word it. Might be that it's not really an angle that most folks use a lot day-to-day, and the novelty appeals? Not quite right, but... Hrm.
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Old 8th October 2008, 05:34     #421
wowzer
 
Wink hey vert I think I might be a real photorapher

I am not sure I only make a living doing it now Ive shown you mine show us yours.

this is done in hdr

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Old 8th October 2008, 09:01     #422
BadNova
 
haha, owned
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Old 8th October 2008, 09:32     #423
sv
simulationszeitalter
 
I like that boat shot... its not toooooo HDR looking.]

The worlds gone HDR mad.
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Old 8th October 2008, 09:50     #424
wowzer
 
Some product placement



I live in the wine country so I often feature images from there







I love photography

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Old 8th October 2008, 10:45     #425
Wibble
 
I'll stop spamming images at some point...

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Old 8th October 2008, 11:10     #426
Juju
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This is one I took a few years ago on a film camera and scanned - so some of the colour is lost.

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Old 8th October 2008, 12:39     #427
dp
 
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So where are your HDR shots? Mr real photographer, LOL

While you CAN use Auto-bracketing for HDR shots. It's the same as using P or even worse "Green Square" mode for all of your photos.
HDR isn't the answer for everything and it depends on what you're trying to do.

Here is an image I'm in the process of working through the post on. I used an Auto-bracket of -2,0,2 to get what I wanted. But that was only because from experience I was sure that there wasn't greater than the 7 stop range that auto-bracket gives me.



I was also in a bit of a hurry. And that image is a stitch of 33 images (3 exposures of 11 images) as it is.

If on the other hand I want to make a High Dynamic Range Tone Mapped image which I'm happy with, then I do as Ritalin says and make sure that I spot meter, plan my exposures and really take care of things.

Here is another example.



This is a combination of 8 Exposures (30" 20" 12" 5" 3" 1" 1/4" 1/20")
and as it is I'm still blowing out highlights in one of the windows. Last time I checked in PS it had about a 10-12 stop range. You just can't capture a scene like that without checking the light levels and planning/manually setting the exposures.

If I'd done this with auto-bracketing then it would look at best unpredictable, and at worse terrible.

You have to know what you're trying to accomplish, what your limitations are, and then you can use the auto modes. If you use them before knowing what you're doing, then you're just shooting in the dark (or in the green)
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Old 8th October 2008, 14:35     #428
wowzer
 
Nice break down of things dp I usually will not take the time to explain things in so great of detail on a form but I should so thanks for that. Nice shots by the way here is a shot I took that consists of 25 exposures some stitching and some burning

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Old 8th October 2008, 14:38     #429
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Nice break down of things dp I usually will not take the time to explain things in so great of detail on a form but I should so thanks for that. Nice shots by the way here is a shot I took that consists of 25 exposures some stitching and some burning

Nice work. I love the "godlights"

I'm trying to perfect a workflow for HDR where I'm doing it all with layers in CS3 and then painting in the details with the wacom. Still getting there.
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Old 8th October 2008, 14:46     #430
wowzer
 
Hey dp I am glad you saw the image in my last post I just began to feel like I better pull this out as Its not an image I want hotlinked or stolen if you know what I mean. Considering I have made it available to my clients in a limited edition Serious
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Old 8th October 2008, 14:59     #431
Rocket
 
can't you just water mark it or something?
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Old 8th October 2008, 17:54     #432
VERT
 
I dont have any HDR photos I can show, but have previously posted photos in this thread. I dont make a living from photography but have made a few bucks here and there from published work in magazines.

And I agree that HDR isn't the end all of photography, I would even go as far to say it can be gimmacky, people often go way overboard with it too.

I hope to get some good shots up Mt Angelus this weekend, so if i do i'll post them up.
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Old 8th October 2008, 21:57     #433
wowzer
 
Wink

Hey vert thats cool man you have to forgive me for my previous posts
I really should use my forum etiquette

I would love to see some of your upcoming shots
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Old 8th October 2008, 22:49     #434
Dan
 
I found this HDR tutorial very helpful, the guy knows his stuff: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...amic-range.htm

Here's one I took a couple of years ago, this was 3 images I think:

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Old 9th October 2008, 00:09     #435
lektronimo
 
^ no repeats!

Ok, got my ass around at uploading some recent work:





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Old 10th October 2008, 00:58     #436
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Old 10th October 2008, 01:14     #437
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Old 10th October 2008, 01:30     #438
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For some reason I'm in the mood for contrasty B&W tonight...








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Old 10th October 2008, 01:49     #439
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Quite like how the scooter is doubly framed in that one. Combined with the splashes of colour & all the little details, looks quite neat & keeps drawing my eye back to the scooter.
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Old 10th October 2008, 02:52     #440
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image above
this i like. i like it so much i quoted that shit to say how much i like it. but then whatsadoodle quoted it too, so you know. that's too much. i think. so i took it out, and just put 'image above' - but then you're a smart guy, you can figure that out.

anyway!

one knob suckling for you.

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