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Old 10th December 2022, 12:15     #121
Lightspeed
 
Quote:
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From Bari Weiss this time: yes there were secret banlists

https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status...07575633305600
Private company does private things.
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Old 10th December 2022, 12:20     #122
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It wasn’t a private company.
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Old 10th December 2022, 12:28     #123
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When you read the leaked chat logs, Twitter comes across as some sort of social-media FTX. An incredibly powerful and influential organisation, with the power to affect countries and businesses and economies and elections, being run by giddy gullible children. With no adults in the room.
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Old 10th December 2022, 12:28     #124
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But you know what I mean. It's not a US government entity, it's allowed to do things in private.

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An incredibly powerful and influential organisation, with the power to affect countries and businesses and economies and elections, being run by giddy gullible children. With no adults in the room.
So, the status quo.
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Old 10th December 2022, 12:41     #125
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When you’re an organisation being run by gullible children and taking instruction FROM the government, it’s a lot less private. E.g:

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1...RsQGOwrPb3ew4w
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Old 10th December 2022, 12:49     #126
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Well, I can't say I understand US law to be able to know what's significant with certainty.

I do know there are any number companies with dodgy practices run by people I would consider children, in the sense they're naively pursuing their own interests at the cost of everyone, with heavy government involvement. And it's apparently entirely acceptable for them to be allowed to keep their secrets.

Is it the guys who just made bank that are gullible, or the rest of us?
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Old 10th December 2022, 16:41     #127
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I mean - newflash - companies aren't fair, moral, or in the best interests of the customer/consumer - and they have no requirement to be.

These retards going nuts over all this stuff are making out like there was some grand conspiracy when there was none - the error in judgement is theirs in assuming some kind of 'fairness' that they were robbed of.
Twitter owed them nothing.
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Old 11th December 2022, 22:58     #128
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All seems fair and balanced to me.
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Old 11th December 2022, 23:11     #129
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https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/s...993449986?s=20
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Old 12th December 2022, 12:55     #130
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making out like there was some grand conspiracy
In reality what existed was a situation in which there were no rules, and the inmates really were running the asylum. There was no oversight; people and content got kickbanned or muted on a whim. Twitter really was like an IRC channel with mods on a power trip. It's just that all the mods had gone to the same schools and believed the same things and considered the same sorts of people to be bad and the same thoughts of ideas to be wrongthink.

E.g. - this professor at the Stanford School of Medicine thought that school closures could harm children, so his account was secretly set to "Do Not Trend". Nobody knows by whom, or on whose instruction, but everyone knew what to do with those sorts of ideas.



American conservative commentator Charlie Kirk had his account secretly set to "Do Not Amplify". Nobody knows why, no paper trail, nobody actually ordered a code red but everyone knew what to do.



And Jack was able to go before congress and testify "Twitter does not censor people based on their political beliefs" in complete honesty, because as far as he knew, it didn't.
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Old 12th December 2022, 13:22     #131
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o_O

Did you expect it to be any different? Are you not aware that this is how businesses are run, especially in the US paradigm.

Accountability? Oversight? Those are for poor people.
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Old 12th December 2022, 14:04     #132
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I'm sure everything will get better for everyone now that Twitter is a private company owned by a man whose recent activity is (checks notes) posting about Anthony Fauci's gain-of-function research.
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Old 12th December 2022, 14:21     #133
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I wonder what we'd find if suddenly all of MediaWorks' emails were made public.
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Old 12th December 2022, 15:51     #134
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Yeah, I mean, why would you expect it to be any different Ab?
Twitter has no requirement to be some grand democratic and fair platform.
It's a company making money from a product. It's an interactive tabloid.

Like I said, it owes the world nothing. So why are people acting like they've been fleeced and robbed of some right to a fair platform?
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Old 12th December 2022, 16:53     #135
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Because the CEO testified before Congress that the company did not do the thing that it has now been proven to have been doing?
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Old 12th December 2022, 17:09     #136
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1994 - Tobacco Company CEOs Testify Before Congress

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Old 12th December 2022, 17:13     #137
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I thought we were all on the same page about what social media companies are about?

Yeah, they're nasty... but normal nasty.
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Old 12th December 2022, 18:50     #138
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I thought we were all on the same page about what social media companies are about?

Yeah, they're nasty... but normal nasty.
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Old 12th December 2022, 20:25     #139
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facepalm



https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602113254360162304
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Old 12th December 2022, 23:10     #140
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"Free speech absolutionist"...

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/stat...00894721?s=20&

It's like an onion of stupid.
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Old 13th December 2022, 00:23     #141
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Elon Musk getting booed at Dave Chappelle show Chase Center

Tweeted here:
https://twitter.com/CleoPat48937885/...14514232938497
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Old 14th December 2022, 12:04     #142
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Ukraine has been removed from Twitter's list of countries to choose from when authenticating mobile numbers.

https://mezha.media/en/2022/12/13/tw...inian-numbers/

That was fast.
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Old 14th December 2022, 15:40     #143
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Musk Shakes Up Twitter’s Legal Team as He Looks to Cut More Costs

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To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. Twitter has also refused to pay a $197,725 bill for private charter flights made the week of Mr. Musk’s takeover, according to a copy of a lawsuit filed in New Hampshire District Court and obtained by The New York Times.

Twitter’s leaders have also discussed the consequences of denying severance payments to thousands of people who have been laid off since the takeover, two people familiar with the talks said. And Mr. Musk has threatened employees with lawsuits if they talk to the media and “act in a manner contrary to the company’s interest,” according to an internal email sent last Friday.
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Old 14th December 2022, 15:44     #144
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Well, not paying bills IS a way to cut costs... I guess...
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Old 15th December 2022, 07:22     #145
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I'm not even going to ban the guy who tracks my jet despite it being a personal safety risk... nek minnit.

(it's also public information, available from any flight tracking)
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Old 15th December 2022, 08:42     #146
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I'm anticipating a Streisand effect will be in order.
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Old 15th December 2022, 11:43     #147
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Meh - publicly available data being a little bit tricky to sift through is the basis for so many apps. And leveraging it for the common man is why the Social Media apps have resulted in those that don't understand the base technology standing on the shoulders of those slightly taller to espouse vitriol.

What we need is a great leveler that will reduce everything back to IRC and SearchlightBBS.

But, progress.
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Old 15th December 2022, 17:53     #148
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Elon "i'll be the last out of tesla" Musk sold Tesla shares Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
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Old 16th December 2022, 06:14     #149
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https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...tivist/672436/
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Old 16th December 2022, 10:50     #150
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Laugh

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Musk is a try-hard
On the money.
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Old 16th December 2022, 12:19     #151
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Old 16th December 2022, 17:13     #152
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Also banned today: by the looks of it, any mainstream journalist who has mentioned @elonmusk in the past 48 hours
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Old 16th December 2022, 17:25     #153
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Old 16th December 2022, 18:48     #154
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Journalists that have been banned so far tonight:

Donie O'Sullivan (CNN)

Drew Harwell (Washington Post)

Ryan Mac (NYT)

Aaron Rupar

Tony Webster

Taylor Lorenz (Washington Post) - Account not suspended but tweets no longer loading

Matt Binder (Mashable)

Micah Flee (The Intercept)

Keith Olbermann (CNN)

Steve Herman (Voice of America)
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Old 16th December 2022, 21:05     #155
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bUt FrEe SpEeCH
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Old 17th December 2022, 12:13     #156
Ab
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Quote:
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Taylor Lorenz (Washington Post) - Account not suspended but tweets no longer loading
By the looks of it Lorenz is scrubbing her own profile after other journalists called her out for anti-Semitism in her posts.
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Old 17th December 2022, 14:38     #157
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So the "guest" appearance at Dave Chapelle's stand-up went well...

https://i.imgur.com/CZUwWfI.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/BIjuYM9.mp4

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjycFnpV...jpg&name=small

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Old 18th December 2022, 08:32     #158
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Quote:
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I'm anticipating a Streisand effect will be in order.
A new subreddit dedicated to the Elon Musk jet tracker is one of the fastest-growing pages on the website, with almost 40,000 members in 2 days
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Old 19th December 2022, 08:42     #159
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Losing the plot

https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/s...31261791522817
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Old 19th December 2022, 16:36     #160
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What ever that was it's gone now...
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