What grinds your gears?

[Cyberbob]

Getting a few commercial photography jobs these days.
Oils: Getting paying gigs.
Grind: Net 30 if you're lucky.

Don't make me chase you, again.


edit: also, 33,000th reply!

[jb]

#33001 lies

[aR Que]

Sales people gmfg, When i want to get hold of one to give me a price. No where to be found.
When i don't want their shit, they're busting down the door with their pack of biscuits and pamphlets.

Oh man, don't even get me started about when they DON'T bring the biscuits.

[fixed_truth]

My eye starts to twitch when I hear/read adults talk about deceased loved ones i.e. 'can't wait to see them again', 'she's watching over us keeping us safe', 'in a better place' etc. I'm not sure if it's the baseless religious crap that grinds me or it's that they get a placebo that doesn't work on me.

/cynical and grumpy faggot that likes to over-analyse every tube on the internet to check for leaks or used tampons floating inside

[Lightspeed]

They may not be stating what they think is true, but rather offering some kind of symbolism, creating a narrative to explain the state of their inner self-object representation of the deceased.

I mean, or it could be both... but you have to do something with what remains of that person inside you. Spiritualisation isn't the only avenue people take, but I don't think you're wrong that it does seem a more satisfying solution than other measures (such as rationalisation or denial.)

Reality is harsh. But it also doesn't care what you believe about it, you just need to watch out for the pointy bits.

[leadinjector]

meh, some people are just feeble. any time someone tells me about how big the universe is, or they just saw a doco on it and how it made them feel so small and helpless, i automatically just assume they are weak minded. who gives a fuck. its like dying. people can invent stories about what happens when people die if they want, whatever makes them feel better, but its just another sign of a weak person. people die and go in the ground as far as we know, end of story.

and the "theyre in a better place" makes me chuckle a bit too. most people are cunts and would probably go to hell if such a thing existed.

[SehrGut]

Originally Posted by leadinjector

and the "theyre in a better place" makes me chuckle a bit too. most people are cunts and would probably go to hell if such a thing existed.

"hell is other people"

[fixed_truth]

Yeah I think that it is a coping mechanism. Though imo that's what 'life after death' beliefs are. People want or need to believe it to be true so it doesn't seem to be something that they are willing to seriously examine. To me that is denial.

[Lightspeed]

I doubt you have anything against people coping, we all have to cope. What do you think is being denied? What kind of fruit do you think examination would bear? That the nature of death is unknown?

[fixed_truth]

In brief I think that believing in an afterlife is believing whatever makes you happy and this generally isn't a good place to make our decisions from. Why? Because often this denies the development of a personal and wider responsibility. Without a safety net our (individual & societal) problems are ultimately our responsibility and so everything is going to be alright - only if we make it so.

Imo a much better way would be to seek truth and find happiness in it.

[ChaosWulf]

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Imo a much better way would be to seek truth and find happiness in it.

Sure, but if truth is unprovable, why not let people find happiness in whatever BS they make up, provided it's not hurting anyone?

[Lightspeed]

We all make up stories to satisfy ourselves when it is not possible or reasonable to know any alternative. There is simply no alternative.

[leadinjector]

Originally Posted by ChaosWulf

Sure, but if truth is unprovable, why not let people find happiness in whatever BS they make up, provided it's not hurting anyone?

i think the problem there is that generally, it can and does hurt people when their made up beliefs tell them that those dudes i nthe next valley over are a bunch of faggots that need to die for their sins in the eyes of holy Raprashatmahut. (that may not be the name of an actual god)

[leadinjector]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

We all make up stories to satisfy ourselves when it is not possible or reasonable to know any alternative. There is simply no alternative.

the alternative is to not give a shit. there is plenty of stuff going on that i dont understand, such as maths, or what time the coffee shop downstairs -actually- opens at, but that doesnt mean i have to make shit up to explain it so i can sleep at night.

[ChaosWulf]

Originally Posted by leadinjector

i think the problem there is that generally, it can and does hurt people when their made up beliefs tell them that those dudes i nthe next valley over are a bunch of faggots that need to die for their sins in the eyes of holy Raprashatmahut. (that may not be the name of an actual god)

OK, without getting into a religious debate (please don't, Lightspeed is back), fixed_truth's original gripe was about people who speak of the deceased in a "can't wait to see them again", "watching over us" etc.
Basically the harmless fairy tales, Grandma is watching us from the brightest star in the sky, that sort of crap. "Harmless" being the operative word. It's not hurting anyone, and it's not even an aspect of an organised religion - as nowhere in Christianity, Hinduism, Islam (ad nauseum) is there a clause that says "your nana is allowed to watch over you from ____".
This is obviously not the heavy duty religious shit here, just the polite things people end up telling our kids when they're crying at funerals.

[Lightspeed]

If being tough is all you can be then you must be pretty weak... Choosing to be tough when it's time to be tough and soft when it's time to be soft is another thing...

Too bad this had to be about religion though. :/

[fixed_truth]

Originally Posted by ChaosWulf

Sure, but if truth is unprovable, why not let people find happiness in whatever BS they make up, provided it's not hurting anyone?

If people can believe in an afterlife while simultaneously not having conservative morals or an accompanying belief that whatever happens is Gods will (ie undermining responsibility) then that's fine.

(tried not to drop the G bomb but hey )

[ChaosWulf]

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

If people can believe in an afterlife while simultaneously not having conservative morals or an accompanying belief that whatever happens is Gods will (ie undermining responsibility) then that's fine.

Weirdly enough, most of the people I know that throw the self-soothing but non-religious afterlife comments around tend to be pretty non-conservative and self-determining. And old.
I think the afterlife faff is just to put a band-aid on grief rather than any realistic statement of belief

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

If people can believe in an afterlife while simultaneously not having conservative morals or an accompanying belief that whatever happens is Gods will (ie undermining responsibility) then that's fine.

I doubt it is particularly conscious. I think you'll find excluding those that are actively religious most people make those kind of utterances without any thoughts of a deeper cosmology.

Originally Posted by ChaosWulf

I think the afterlife faff is just to put a band-aid on grief rather than any realistic statement of belief

The death of a loved one, particularly someone close and present in someone's life is a complex affair. I mean, people can go through some really weird stuff after the death of someone close or otherwise significant. Stuff that makes "oh, she's watching me from a better place" seem like such a nice and sweet way to deal with things.

[ChaosWulf]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

I mean, people can go through some really weird stuff after the death of someone close or otherwise significant. Stuff that makes "oh, she's watching me from a better place" seem like such a nice and sweet way to deal with things.

Agreed.

[Nothing]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

I mean, people can go through some really weird stuff after the death of someone close or otherwise significant. Stuff that makes "oh, she's watching me from a better place" seem like such a nice and sweet way to deal with things.

Perhaps for the individual involved that is a nice/sweet way to deal with the circumstances. That doesn't make it any less delusional.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by smeggar

hey fuckwits, if you're going to leave a voicemail with a phone number please don't rattle it off at a thousand miles an hour in your gibberish dialect.

... at the end of a very long phone message on a phone system that doesn't have a 'rewind' function - forcing you to replay the whole thing.

[StN]

Hanging a couple of telly's on the wall, and even though I know the mount is 100% level due to the sharkfart at the midpoint - and getting the wife to have a look just so she doesn't go spare when I chuck the thing up on the wall.

Yerp - looks like things are a bit out of whack...

"Why does it look like its leaning back towards that doorway?"

"Because the house is sinking towards the window..."

[Juju]

Originally Posted by StN

Hanging a couple of telly's on the wall, and even though I know the mount is 100% level due to the sharkfart at the midpoint - and getting the wife to have a look just so she doesn't go spare when I chuck the thing up on the wall.

Yerp - looks like things are a bit out of whack...

"Why does it look like its leaning back towards that doorway?"

"Because the house is sinking towards the window..."

Find what looks "eye level" in your house - match level to it - etch new guidelines into level - bingo!

[cyc]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10833019

Scott Guy's widow Kylee is considering leaving New Zealand if Ewen Macdonald is given a light sentence or released from jail on Friday.

The Herald revealed earlier today that Mrs Guy had penned a letter to Attorney General Chris Finlayson on Friday - a week before Macdonald is sentenced on six charges of criminal damage, arson and theft.

In the letter, also sent to the Prime Minister, Justice Minister and other politicians, Mrs Guy has asked that Macdonald be sentenced cumulatively rather than concurrently.

This "letter" represents a profound misunderstanding of how the justice system works and ought to work. On the other hand, this woman is still grieving and on the face of it Macdonald is a real bastard, so one can forgive her for this misguided little campaign.

However, one has to ask why a so called "newspaper" would see fit to report on something so constitutionally inappropriate AND to further open up this poor woman's wounds. Are there no limits to how far these people will go to sell some "news"?

[StN]

Originally Posted by Juju

Find what looks "eye level" in your house - match level to it - etch new guidelines into level - bingo!

Wait a week and it'll be off again...

[aR Que]

installed civil 3d 2013, because someone decided we needed to upgrade (le sigh).
The bad news? No new functionality that i can see, except options are highlighted in the command bar, oh goodie! The good news? They've managed to make it run even slower. Just the feature i was looking for.

[crocos]

Originally Posted by cyc

Are there no limits to how far these people will go to sell some "news"?

Is it Rhetorical Questions Monday?

[Stalk3r]

Originally Posted by crocos

Is it Rhetorical Questions Monday?

i was just going to reply "no" but your answer works too

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by cyc

This "letter" represents a profound misunderstanding of how the justice system works and ought to work. On the other hand, this woman is still grieving and on the face of it Macdonald is a real bastard, so one can forgive her for this misguided little campaign.

The justice system is 1 part process, 2 parts theatre, 4 parts ritualism.

At least that's my experience from being a juror in the High Court twice now. Never again though, the last one was too distressing.

[cyc]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

The justice system is 1 part process, 2 parts theatre, 4 parts ritualism.

At least that's my experience from being a juror in the High Court twice now. Never again though, the last one was too distressing.

Thank you for your useless and bland observation.

[TnT]

Originally Posted by cyc

Are there no limits to how far these people will go to sell some "news"?

FTFY Crocos.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by cyc

Thank you for your useless and bland observation.

Just keeping in the spirit of the OP.

[cyc]

The difference between my post and yours is that I kept to the spirit of the thread by just posting my gear-grind, the meaning of which is obvious to anyone smarter than a dog, which evidently excludes Lightspeed. OTOH, your post basically had no meaning, other than throwing out a plethora of unqualified and hyperbolic (when used within their context) adjectives. It just keeps up with your usual, pathetic standard of "thoughts" which resemble nothing other than runny diarrhoea.

LOLspeed.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by cyc

I'm the best and you're the worst.

Dootypants.

[CCS]

This forum was better when lolspeed wasn't here.

Now he's back and it's like the guy who never showers and there's just this odour that lingers around the place.

[StN]

I remember those 5 months like they were yesterday...

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by CCS

This forum was better when lolspeed wasn't here.

On the other hand NZGames is greatly enhanced by your constant complaints about the quality of others' posts.

[aR Que]

Don't worry LS, i've missed you <3

[CCS]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

On the other hand NZGames is greatly enhanced by your constant complaints about the quality of others' posts.

Well of course it stands to reason that if I can get people to post better then nzgames will benefit. Duh.