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30th October 2022, 20:37 | #3161 | |
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Your key points were regarding the percentage of those hospitalised with Covid with at least 3 shots, of those hospitalized and in the ICU with Covid with at least 3 shots, and of those that died with Covid with at least 3 shots. But from what I can see, you're failing to account for those that have not been hospitalized. You're making the logical error of concentrating on entities that passed a selection process while overlooking those that did not. It's a loose analogy but you're looking at car crash victims that are in hospital or died, and whether or not they were wearing a seatbelt. You're identifying that out of those that died or are in hospital, a fairly large portion of them were wearing a seatbelt, which is fine. Those are facts. Then the logical jump you're making is using those above facts as a key talking point as to whether or not seat belts are effective, never mind that there are scores and scores of car crash victims that were wearing seatbelts, that don't need to go to hospital, or don't die as a result of their injuries. The effectiveness of seatbelts isn't determined by looking at car crash victims that are in hospital or died, and whether or not they were wearing a seatbelt, is it?
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so the effectiveness of seatbelts is not determined by number that are injured/die, but rather number that are not injured/die (who otherwise would have if not for big seatbelt) Ok, fair point.
My point is primarily for any given month of car accidents, as a proportion of the population of NSW the 53% who wear seatbelts should not represent 78%, 53%, and 75% of the injuries, hospitalisations, and deaths respectively. But you CAN account for survivorship bias in the NSW data because there's 47% of the NSW population who wear no seatbelt (or 1,2 seatbelts) and they represent less injury, ICU, death compared to 3+ seatbelt cohort. I think if anything the NSW reports show that 3+ shots just have more car accidents than the rest of us.
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31st October 2022, 20:42 | #3163 |
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https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...7a9914df7a3422
Australia budget for COVID-19 vaccine injury claims only: 2021: $937,000 2022-2024: $77,000,000
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1st November 2022, 17:12 | #3164 | |
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-Immune systems respond to injection, but doesn't translate to protection -Immune systems are over-trained and can't learn new trick offered by bivalent If only someone had warned us in advance!
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2nd November 2022, 22:55 | #3165 |
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3rd November 2022, 08:11 | #3167 |
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It's become like flat-earthers. I can't tell if they're being serious or not.
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3rd November 2022, 09:44 | #3168 | |
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3rd November 2022, 11:19 | #3169 |
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That's right, equate fact-based skepticism with the most baseless of conspiracy theories.
We were persuaded / coerced to poison/hurt ourselves for 2 years. Lockdowns (mental health, children's development), masks (facial, respiratory candida), vaccines (negative benefit, all risk), social division ("I hope you go to hospital", "oh yeah, I hope YOU go to hospital!"). You can believe we were all in the dark, if fooling yourself makes you feel better. No amnesty, no forgiveness until there is acknowledgement, resignations, dissolutions, liquidations, reparations, apologies, jail time. Daily sceptic has a good article on this Emily Oster. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/11/02/...ore-generally/ Head girl syndrome indeed. Pro conformist, pro social, top grades in whatever the school wants to grade people on. Smothering the life force of the misfits.
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3rd November 2022, 13:36 | #3170 | |
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If so, you have no business getting uppity about bad faith generalisations. Also, the fact that you can't see how flat earth equates is funny. Last edited by _indigo1 : 3rd November 2022 at 13:38. |
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3rd November 2022, 13:45 | #3171 |
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Yeah, the ginga comparing the last 2 years to lord of the flies.
I can't see how flat earth fits. Explain it to me. Or laugh at me for being a big dum dum.
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3rd November 2022, 13:52 | #3172 |
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Maybe funny was the wrong word. Ironic perhaps.
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3rd November 2022, 13:55 | #3173 |
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The natives are restless. These pro conformist types can either drop any aspirations to memory-hole their behaviour during COVID-19 calling the riff-raff crazy in the meantime, or they will be boiled alive and eaten.
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10th November 2022, 14:38 | #3174 |
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UK Parliament vaccine debate
https://youtu.be/GYFYq0xEAjQ Nature is healing. No amnesty, no forgiveness.
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12th November 2022, 10:50 | #3175 |
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So what are your thoughts on this one then Nich, Titus ?
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Very nice, very nice. Now let’s see how the trial defines “success”
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22nd November 2022, 11:54 | #3180 |
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Yeah that was why I posted it.
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29th November 2022, 13:16 | #3181 |
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wtf is going on in China?
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29th November 2022, 16:30 | #3182 |
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"FIGHT the Empire!"
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29th November 2022, 23:56 | #3184 |
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30th November 2022, 08:02 | #3185 |
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Wow, it's crazy that all the Uyghurs caught Covid.
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30th November 2022, 19:32 | #3187 |
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You're in the wrong thread bruv, but I for one support the edit. It would be a step out of universe.
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9th December 2022, 11:20 | #3188 |
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Blood donor case: Protest as baby has heart surgery against parents' wishes
This is peak stupidity.
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9th December 2022, 16:53 | #3189 |
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Better lock NZ down again, right?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...CHXLEKCKIO7BA/ |
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9th December 2022, 22:40 | #3191 |
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Numbers are exponentially increasing in NZ. That's why they locked it down to begin with, and continued to keep it locked down despite the high percentage of people being fully vaccinated against covid. Funny how using the same rationale provokes a different response
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10th December 2022, 09:26 | #3192 |
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What are the figures of # of people hospitalised or those that died with covid these days?
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10th December 2022, 10:15 | #3193 |
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23 last week, 30 the week before. 28 before that, and 35 before that. (deaths, from Google's JHU CSSE graph)
A completely acceptable number of deaths. 418 "COVID hospitalizations" as of last Sunday. It's not shoved in our face 24/7, so no one cares.
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11th December 2022, 15:38 | #3194 | |
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"Hey, don't focus on all these other 99 factors that are counter to my point. Look at this 1 that tries to prove my point. " |
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12th December 2022, 10:36 | #3195 |
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I was thinking the same thing when they locked down the country to begin with and didn't understand it then, don't understand the lack of consistency. Hence the contrarian probing.
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19th December 2022, 18:30 | #3196 | |
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Dr Ashley Bloomfield Appointed Professor At Waipapa Taumata Rau, University Of Auckland
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19th December 2022, 23:45 | #3197 |
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64 deaths in the last week.
Is anyone still injecting or the red pills are doing their job?
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20th December 2022, 00:08 | #3198 |
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20th December 2022, 01:10 | #3199 |
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I notice your graphs are not normalised to the percentage of each population of the given types that are being hospitalized, which would be a more realistic view.
It's been predicted for a LONG time that absolute numbers of both infections and hospitalizations will show a majority as vaccinated, not because it's not working, but because the percentage of vaccinated will be high enough that even with vaccines ameliorating C19 impact (and the impact of new variants that bypass much of the vaccine protection) the absolute numbers will be higher. Meanwhile also predicted the unvaccinated would persist with the high percentage numbers but lowering absolute numbers because there's not as much of them.
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