The US Presidential Race.

[Hory]

Seems that men like her better than women

men have a favorable impression of Palin by a 35-point margin, whereas women have a favorable impression of her by an 18-point margin. Conversely, by a 23-point margin, women do not think Palin is ready to be President, whereas Palin lost this question among men by a considerably smaller 6-point margin

This is going to make great movie in a few years starring Will Smith, Tina Fey and a couple of old white guys.

[Ab]

Originally Posted by Ajax

Sarah Palin's kind of a MILF tbh.

So's her daughter!

[Biff]

Originally Posted by smudge

If this is true, this is going to be good.

Not only that it's probably her snowmobile racing husbands baby. yehaw!

[Kryten]

http://www.vpilf.com/

[ZoSo]

China scrub styles. Saw this on Crooks and liars

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8...841/290/579394

"Speaking of inconsistencies, earlier this month Palin praised Barack Obama's energy plan (h/t Excelscior1). Here is the cached version of the press release that had been posted at the Governor's website. The original document has been scrubbed sometime during the last day (since Aug. 28). I wonder if that could have anything to do with McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate?"

[Valroth]

So.. apparently the Russia VS Georgia situation was orchestrated by McCain! Putin said so.

[Ab]

Originally Posted by Valroth

So.. apparently the Russia VS Georgia situation was orchestrated by McCain! Putin said so.

From what I've read, it's probably true.

[doppelgänger of someone]

Originally Posted by Ajax

Sarah Palin's kind of a MILF tbh.

qft

She apparently was a beauty queen in her home town.

[Wally Simmonds]

Fuck that shit. Both her and McCain are going to get crucified. I suspect that's the real reason she's been chosen - she's practically a nobody.

[cyc]

Originally Posted by Wally Simmonds

Fuck that shit. Both her and McCain are going to get crucified. I suspect that's the real reason she's been chosen - she's practically a nobody.

By whom? You? This is DUHmerica we are talking about.

Don't put anything past them.

[Wally Simmonds]

Oh, certainly, but given the toilet that the US economy has become, and the rest of the problems, I don't think people are going to vote in someone who is going to continue the same bs.

When you look at Obama and Biden, and compare the Republican opposition, it really seems like they haven't really even bothered to put up a fight. McCain is quite literally a crazy old man and from what I've read Palin's credentials are not very impressive.

I'm not saying that Obama and Biden are the next 2nd coming, either. I just think what the republicans have on offer is pretty piss poor.

[cyc]

The trouble with America is that many people care far more about the "murder" of the unborn and pointless garbage like whether someone wears a flag pin than the things you cited. Honestly, the polls are showing McCain gaining on Obama, as unbelievable as that might be.

Another thing that many people don't realise about this election is that whoever is the next President will likely get to nominate 2, if not more, US Supreme Court Justices. If McNutjob wins, the USSC will firmly go back into the 19th century, if currently having some of its justices arguing for the execution of rapists, mentally retarded offenders, and unlimited detention of "enemy combatants" on the say so of GWB is not already disturbing enough. To put this another way, instead of the above being still minority views (barely) on the USSC, they will become THE opinion of the Court.

As for the unimpressive nature of the candidates of both camps - couldn't agree more. Outside of Biden, the others strike me as vapid (Obama), borderline senile/out of control (McCain) and unwashed country hick (Palin).

[BaM]

Uh-oh

ST. PAUL, Minn. — The selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate has electrified conservative activists, providing a boost of energy to the GOP nominee-in-waiting from a key constituency that previously had been lukewarm — at best — about him.

By tapping the anti-abortion and pro-gun Alaska governor just ahead of his convention, which is set to start here Monday, McCain hasn’t just won approval from a skeptical Republican base — he’s ignited a wave of elation and emotion that has led some grass-roots activists to weep with joy.

Serious questions remain about McCain’s pick — exactly how much he knows about her and her positions, past and present, on key issues. But for the worker bee core of the party that is essential to any Republican victory, there are no doubts.

[Ashley]

Not that america cares, but she will get raped in the VP debates.

[Hory]

This is what will happen in the VP debates, just substitute Hillary for JFK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gpgXNWYI

[chiquelet]

Originally Posted by BaM

Uh-oh

That's an alarming read. Abortion and guns. Surely it has to come down to something more than that? Flabbergasted is the best word to describe how I feel.

[Ab]

I want to know if she forced her 16-year-old daughter to have a Down-Syndrome baby because that's what Jebus wanted.

[Ajax]

^ Wha? It's Palin herself who had the Down Syndrome baby.

[Havs]

Obama is f*cked.

It's like a parody movie where some stoner loses everything and has no hope, then walk past a sign that alerts him to the fact that all his problems can be solved by becoming president.

In order to do so, he chooses representatives that conform to the biggest stereotypes in America. The perfect storm being a gun shooting, god bothering, anti global warming, no experience, flip flopping VP.

... Profit.

People seem to forget about the land mass between the east coast and the west coast. That area of land will destroy sound judgement on election day.

[Biff]

For some strange reason this photo was scrubbed from Palin's website. Things that make you go Hmmmm..

[Havs]

Originally Posted by Ajax

^ Wha? It's Palin herself who had the Down Syndrome baby.

1. Bristol Palin left school for an extended period of time, due to mononucleosis according to her family for the last 4-5 months of Trig's pregnancy. Some classmates claimed later that they had seen Bristol Palin pregnant.

2. Sarah Palin did not reveal to anyone outside her family that she was pregnant until 8 months into her pregnancy. Even then, she showed no signs of pregnancy. Alaskan news outlets commented on this, but did not go further. There are pictures of her at Super Tuesday (just a month before the baby was born).

[Yoda]

Even if the daughter wanted the baby, she still forced it secret.

Will it really matter to rabid Republicans when it comes to vote? Or swing voters?

Edit: Full writeup at dailykos

[Ajax]

Interesting! It would seem very foolish to for a VP candidate to cover up such a thing.

[Jonas Undrawing]

wow. This should give McCain + Palin some thorough press coverage right up to and beyond the election.

[chiquelet]

Originally Posted by Ajax

Interesting! It would seem very foolish to for a VP candidate to cover up such a thing.

She wasn't a candidate until a few days ago. Conspiracy theories aside, the chances of a teen having a DS baby is very slim. The chances of a 44 year old having a DS baby? Very high. It's entirely possible that the kid is her daughter's, but I'm not so sure.

[A Corpse]

What if it's her own father's baby? Increases the chances again doesn't it? Also makes for a good rumour.

[Jonas Undrawing]

hah! That'd be too perfect

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by chiquelet

She wasn't a candidate until a few days ago. Conspiracy theories aside, the chances of a teen having a DS baby is very slim. The chances of a 44 year old having a DS baby? Very high. It's entirely possible that the kid is her daughter's, but I'm not so sure.

The evidence in favour of coverup does seem very damning. It's not impossible for a teen to have a DS baby. I suppose she'll have to make a statement at some point.

[Biff]

Some say it's not a DS baby, but a baby of another ethnicity (eskimo) and the DS slant used to explain it's different facial features..

lols

Are the photos enough evidence? Not really but the combination of everything doesn't add up. Mono for 5 months? That just happens to coincide with the end of a pregnancy? Also anyone can look pregnant. Face it if Palin was scared of the secret all she would have to do is hit the Donut shop and put a little padding under her belly. I think something will be uncovered soon. This could be covered up easily under state scrutiny but not national..

[caffiend]

I would pay hard currency to see "electricity going through the social conservative crowd right now".

Preferably 22,000 volts from the fingertips of The Emperor.

[Ab]

Two differing thoughts:

1. Normally I would assume that a vice-presidential candidate would be vetted six ways from Sunday. There'd be investigators on the party payroll going through everything from school attendance records to tax returns to medical histories to every statement ever made of which there is a public record.

But in this case it appears that McCain made this decision without consulting the Republican Party leadership based on some sort of impulse that having a jesus-freak female beside him would assure him of support from the evangelicals and disaffected racist Clinton supporters. If so, he's fucking crazy and fucking unfit to be President.

2. In the past six months we've seen Senator Maverick McCain morph into Presidential Candidate Crazy Power-Hungry McCain and start using techniques out of the Karl Rove playbook of media spin and public-opinion manipulation. There's no way a campaign with any sort of influence from Rove -- the greatest manipulator of public sentiment since Goebbels -- would throw a hospital pass of the magnitude that Palin seems to represent. There's no way Rove would allow a gift like this to fall into the Democrats' lap unless it's exactly what Rove wanted to Democrats to get.

At the risk of sounding overly Machiavellian,

All warfare is based on deception.
..
Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.

Knowing what we all do of Karl Rove, if we take as given that he's a) involved in McCain's strategy, and b) that he was involved in Palin's selection, then c) she's bait and IT'S A TRAP.

[Kryten]

One heartbeat away from becoming President. Now *that's* scary.

I'm getting flashbacks to "The Amazing Mrs Pritchard".

[SpaceCowboy]

ab, thats the most insightful post ive seen on this forum so far, and i think youre not far off the mark.

[FaTBoB]

[Biff]

^ dude, hilarious

oh btw: first MSM of palin rumour! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4647965.ece

Go timesonline! Now if it can just make it to US MSM -ETA tomorrow?

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by Biff

Go timesonline! Now if it can just make it to US MSM -ETA tomorrow?

I think it's going to develop into a Category Five Shitstorm within a day or two.

[Hory]

Originally Posted by Ab

Knowing what we all do of Karl Rove, if we take as given that he's a) involved in McCain's strategy, and b) that he was involved in Palin's selection, then c) she's bait and IT'S A TRAP.

I don't think Karl Rove is involved, it's just too fucking stupid a decision.

Rove was on Fox News the night before the announcement, Palin was none of the 5 or 6 names he listed as potential VPs, and then there's this clip (about 6 mins in) from three weeks ago of him saying Obama should not pick Tim Kaine as his VP because he has only been a Governor of Virginia (popn 7.7 million) for three years, and before that was only mayor of Richmond (popn 1 million), and that if Obama did pick Kaine it would be purely a political choice, not a governing choice.
Palin has been Governor of Alaska (popn 600 thousand) for almost 2 years and before that was Mayor of Wasilla - population 7000.

Of course Rove looking like a complete tool could all be part of a cunning plan to deceive the public, but I think his ego is way too big to do that.

[Hory]

Originally Posted by Biff

^ dude, hilarious

oh btw: first MSM of palin rumour! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4647965.ece

Go timesonline! Now if it can just make it to US MSM -ETA tomorrow?

I think these photos will probably kill this conspiracy theory, unfortunately.

[Biff]

what about this: http://divasblueoasis.blogspot.com/2...rah-palin.html

[dead goon]

Originally Posted by Kryten

Just look at all those gun-totting beer swilling nigger hating republicans in the crowd.