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And another one bites the dust.
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Poll puts NZ First back in contention
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26th January 2011, 13:51 | #2004 | |
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John Key reveals plan for asset sales
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26th January 2011, 14:01 | #2005 |
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http://slapdang.com/2011/01/what-did-labour-sell/ http://slapdang.com/2011/01/labour-p...it-tax-policy/ |
26th January 2011, 14:22 | #2006 |
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Sell them assets, fund me some tax cuts!
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26th January 2011, 14:25 | #2007 |
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It's the same old shit, tax 'n' spend, vs cut 'n' sell. Ugh.
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26th January 2011, 14:30 | #2008 |
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Interesting that Labour has learnt the lesson from that 80's neo-liberal free market roll of the dice?
I don't think that the people spreading these meme's really think that Goff has a right-wing privatisation agenda. Otherwise they'd vote for him
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26th January 2011, 14:46 | #2010 |
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Short term gains to balance the books, fuck the future. The usual "we'd rather have $10 now than $2 every year forever since we may not be in charge next year anyway." shortsightedness that will cost us all in the long run.
And having a tax-cut race to convince the bottom 50% to vote for you is retarded too. I can't believe no politician is willing to stand up and say "The country is broke, and has been spending more than it has been earning for decades. This has to stop."...
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Even if National is crap, Labour isn't exactly the best candidate either. If Phil Goff can't handle one prima donna that is Chris Carter, how can he run the country?
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26th January 2011, 15:37 | #2014 |
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I thought spending more than is earned is the status quo in Western states? Isn't that the basis for our economies?
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26th January 2011, 15:39 | #2015 | |
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I think cutting the tax at the lowest tax tier is a VERY good idea. But that shits still gotta be paid for. Say even half no tax on the first $2500. Giving practically every earner an extra ~$30 a month to spend. To those on or above the median income in NZ, it's probably not significantly noticeable. But those of average income and below (i.e half the country), most of which will be employed as opposed to retired or on a benefit, it might mean worrying about one less monthly bill, visiting the dentist every couple of years, that kind of practical stuff. Which in turn would of course return the money to the economy. So everyone's a bit less stressed out, life's that bit more bearable, parents have a bit more energy for their kids. Except the grumpy few who want to keep their money. As if they could generate their income without the average or below average earners. Another way these average and below average wage earners could increase their income is upskill to better paying work or move to Australia. However, thing is, the reason why people have low-wage employment is because there are low-wage jobs. That need people to work them. But $1.5b of tax cuts has got to be paid for and there's no point repairing one hole by tearing open another. There's no question Key is smart with money, however I think he sees numbers and not so much people.
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I have a few different words to describe Key's so called "sophisticated investors", none of which are polite.
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But whatever you do, government of New Zealand, don't you DARE talk about raising the retirement age! Or means-testing aged care! Or cancelling the Seniors Get Shit For Free Card!
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I raged at Key saying "NZ mums and dads would love to own a bit of Air NZ or Genesis." Yah, they probably would, but they won't. It'll all be bought up by your tax bracket, not Mr and Mrs Average.
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The superfund and kiwisaver funds could buy a huge proportion of those assets, it'd stay in the country and with a 51% government holding I imagine they'd be really safe investments too.
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If we're running a deficit, why did Key cut taxes in the first place?
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