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1st February 2017, 08:57 | #163 |
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Hmmm... the weather is supposed to be good today...
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1st February 2017, 22:59 | #164 | ||
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Second, if I thought you were really totally incapable of finding anything yourself I'm sure I'd be willing to help you out, but google exists and I'm pretty sure you know how to use it. Don't you prefer me giving you the benefit of the doubt, rather than simply assuming you're an idiot? Third, even if I were to make a recommendation to you, you would probably ridicule it, so I would rather you find the material yourself. That way, you'll be less likely to discount what any particular author has said simply because I made a recommendation. Additionally, if there are authors that I might recommend who you would reject out of hand, then by not making any specific recommendation I allow you to exercise your own discretion with regards to who you decide to pay attention to in terms of evaluating credibility. Since it's not exactly an uncommon view, as I have already mentioned, unless you are rejecting views which differ from your own as a result of being unable to see past your own internal cognitive biases I'm sure that a small investment of time on your part will yield you with plenty of material which would allow you to read arguments on both sides.This is especially true since anyone doing a good job of arguing either side of the discussion usually does their best to also present the opposing view in a reasonably charitable fashion before criticising it. Quote:
Well, I'm simply pointing out that your failure to see doesn't mean that there is an absence of a case to be made. Which is, if you think about it, quite similar to your point that a view being common doesn't make it correct. Last edited by Nothing : 1st February 2017 at 23:02. |
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Heh. Maybe major news networks are out of touch with 'America'? Maybe 'America' is out of touch with the world?!? Maybe it's one of those issues where those not outspoken agree with what's happening but keep it to themselves?
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2nd February 2017, 10:13 | #166 | |
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2nd February 2017, 10:32 | #168 | |
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It's been many many years since I did any stats maths mumbo jumbo so I googled:
http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm 146,311,000 registered voters in 'murica as of 2012 Go for a 95% confidence level, with 2.5% confidence interval Sample size req'd = 1,537 Quote:
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2nd February 2017, 10:57 | #169 | |
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Of course like any theory it can't be taken in isolation and you need to factor in things like Agenda Setting / Framing theories, Encoding/Decoding of media messages, the role of social & cultural capital within subcultures etc etc.
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2nd February 2017, 11:24 | #170 | |
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Not saying that's what's happening here, but it HAS happened before in US politics.
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2nd February 2017, 12:23 | #171 |
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I think almost 1 in 2 Americans believe Jesus Christ is going to return some day, dead people are going to come back to life, and God actually blesses America when you command him to.
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2nd February 2017, 16:53 | #172 | |
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3rd February 2017, 03:17 | #173 |
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I don't think I've claimed that as my point of view, or made the claim that executive orders are undemocratic, in this discussion. I've just said that it's a point of view that I can understand. Since it's something you seem to have quite a bit of trouble grasping, and it's not a particularly uncommon point of view, I've suggested you make some effort to get to grips with it. You can take the suggestion or leave it, but I'll not be baited into your bullshit.
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3rd February 2017, 10:54 | #174 | |
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http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=16379 From the above: "The sample for this study was randomly drawn from Ipsos’s online panel (see link below for more info on “Access Panels and Recruitment”), partner online panel sources, and “river” sampling (see link below for more info on the Ipsos “Ampario Overview” sample method) and does not rely on a population frame in the traditional sense. Ipsos uses fixed sample targets, unique to each study, in drawing sample. After a sample has been obtained from the Ipsos panel, Ipsos calibrates respondent characteristics to be representative of the U.S. Population using standard procedures such as raking-ratio adjustments. The source of these population targets is U.S. Census 2015 American Community Survey data. The sample drawn for this study reflects fixed sample targets on demographics. Post-hoc weights were made to the population characteristics on gender, age, region, race/ethnicity and income. Statistical margins of error are not applicable to online polls. All sample surveys and polls may be subject to other sources of error, including, but not limited to coverage error and measurement error. Where figures do not sum to 100, this is due to the effects of rounding. The precision of Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. In this case, the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points for all respondents (see link below for more info on Ipsos online polling “Credibility Intervals”). Ipsos calculates a design effect (DEFF) for each study based on the variation of the weights, following the formula of Kish (1965). This study had a credibility interval adjusted for design effect of the following (n=1,201, DEFF=1.5, adjusted Confidence Interval=4.7). The poll also has a credibility interval plus or minus 5.2 percentage points for Democrats, plus or minus 5.1 percentage points for Republicans, and plus or minus 9.2 percentage points for Independents (see link below for more info on Ipsos online polling “Credibility Intervals”)." Take from that, what you will... |
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3rd February 2017, 16:32 | #175 | |
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If the idea that executive order are undemocratic is not your point of view, then why the fuck are you even here? What are you contributing to the conversation? Try to wrap your weak brain around the timeline here. MadMax claimed that EO's aren't democratic and couldn't articulate why. Then you jumped in and said it's a not uncommon view and couldn't articulate why. So you've added nothing except for being a complete and utter numpty. Kindly fuck off until you have something of substance to share with the group.
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3rd February 2017, 18:47 | #176 |
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3rd February 2017, 19:26 | #177 |
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Ewwww...that guy is scary. Some have actually referred to him as "President Bannon" as Trump just does everything he tells him to.
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4th February 2017, 17:12 | #178 |
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A US judge has put a nationwide block on President Donald Trump's week-old executive order barring nationals from seven countries from entering the United States.
well. did not actually see that coming.
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4th February 2017, 17:15 | #179 | ||
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4th February 2017, 19:09 | #180 | |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order That's some pretty light reading. It'll answer all your questions. Oh, I'll point out also that EO's do not constitute legislation in an of themselves. Another thing I'll point out is that federal judges can't be easily removed from office (executive/legislative/judicial branches and all that entails). Trump can't just up and fire a federal judge because he got into a twitter-rage. That really would be undemocratic.
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I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? Last edited by CCS : 4th February 2017 at 19:12. |
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4th February 2017, 20:20 | #181 | |
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did you miss my quote at the end of that post? Sure, it's "subject to judicial review" however my concern is that noone will stand up and challenge him.
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4th February 2017, 20:33 | #182 |
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How do we determine whether the decisions of our leaders are democratic or not?
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4th February 2017, 21:09 | #183 |
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You ask, What would Jesus do? And if he agrees then it's OK.
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Let me say again: you are wrong. Trump's EOs can be overruled. Quote:
Another thing I'll point out is that federal judges can't be easily removed from office (executive/legislative/judicial branches and all that entails). Trump can't just up and fire a federal judge because he got into a twitter-rage. That really would be undemocratic. If you believe that a judge challenging Trumps EO is career suicide, can you explain how exactly that is? Quote:
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5th February 2017, 14:35 | #186 |
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I didn't have any issues with previous EO because honestly they weren't an issue or were before my time to have had concern.
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I really must clean this record cause the needle keeps jumping back
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5th February 2017, 15:25 | #189 | ||
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By the way, "generally disagreed upon" really is a pretty airy-fairy standard for something to be considered undemocratic, dontchathink?
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6th February 2017, 00:39 | #190 |
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Appeals court denies Trump administration request to immediately reinstate ban on travelers (sic) and refugees
You've now got two courts obstructing Trump's EO. If after legal process is followed the EO gets to stand, that's still a check on Trump's authority. The limits of EO should be obviously apparent. Wasn't it one of Obama's first orders to close down Guantanamo? That's shits still running. Trump could find a way to burn the Reichstag and turn shit all upside down, and THEN he might have powers of dictator. But I'm not seeing it. Yet.
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6th February 2017, 14:05 | #191 |
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I think Trump's use of language has more of a 1984 vibe than Spicer's alternative facts. He reduces everything to very good, very bad, weak, very weak, strong, very strong.
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6th February 2017, 16:31 | #193 |
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So whats stopping Trump from firing this Judge like he did the last one?
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6th February 2017, 16:40 | #194 |
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6th February 2017, 17:14 | #195 | |
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6th February 2017, 17:21 | #196 |
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Honestly, trying to discuss this shit with the likes of MadMax and now Caesar is like this scene from Zoolander.
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Ohhh it was an Acting Attorney General... my mistake.
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6th February 2017, 18:21 | #198 |
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At least you can admit it. Bravo to you sir.
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https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/worl...t-against-isis
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