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15th June 2011, 13:15 | #81 |
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Ah, politics... where the most important thing to know is who is to blame.
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15th June 2011, 14:00 | #83 |
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What's the bet all their IT work is done by Labour volunteers.
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15th June 2011, 14:06 | #84 | |
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15th June 2011, 15:23 | #86 |
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National HACKED into their SERVER and BREACHED their UBUNTU and deleted their INDEX.HTML file! NEFARIOUS! And then they told Cameron Slater!
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15th June 2011, 15:25 | #87 | |
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Hardcore and you can still access this powerful tool RIGHT NOW, AMAZING technology. The internet .... a magical place.
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15th June 2011, 15:31 | #88 |
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I heard they used a MOZILLA to look at their IP ADDRESS!!
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15th June 2011, 15:34 | #89 |
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There could have been all sorts of gay things stored on the server - its a breach of human rights.
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15th June 2011, 16:55 | #91 |
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nice sperge rage kids.
feels good to have mastery dinnit!?
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Its due to bad management/vendor/administration or all of the above .... end of the day Labour fucked up on their own website, stop trying to pass the buck, you've been doing that since the start. Thats passing responsibility onto someone else to lessen the overall fact that they fucked up "ok" was the short version. Quote:
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15th June 2011, 17:23 | #93 |
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Try and keep up Bites.
National keeping it to themselves that private citizens confidential information was mistakenly been made public - is one issue. How Labour deal with their fuck up - is ANOTHER issue. Me having an issue with what National done doesn't mean I think that they're responsible for Labour making the info public in the first place. Your stupid is giving me a headache.
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15th June 2011, 17:30 | #95 |
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fixed_truth, do you understand at a basic technical level what has gone wrong here?
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15th June 2011, 17:33 | #96 | |
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15th June 2011, 17:38 | #97 |
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The goal post movin' troll is a good one. Because what you actually do is move the goal posts yourself, and then when whoever you're trolling takes aim at this new goal, you accuse them of moving the goal posts.
Quoting the person's posts as a narrative, hiding the fact that they were actually involved in a dialogue is a nice touch.
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15th June 2011, 17:41 | #98 |
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I'm surprised it took lolspeed this long to post something facepalmworthy. Usually he's straight in there on the first page.
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15th June 2011, 18:31 | #100 |
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I meant on a level technical level. I think it's fair to say you don't.
Let's describe it like this. Labour published a lot of sensitive information on a huge billboard for anyone who drove past to see. Oh sure, the billboard was in a backwater with no sign posts, but it was there nonetheless. Their billboard hoarding guy never thought to cover up the billboard until such time as Labour put a fancy advertisment over the top of the sensitive information and, to be fair, wasn't told that he was supposed to. Cameron Slater used my-ip-neighbors.com - let's think of it as a sort of automatically generated whitepages of billboards - to find out what billboards Labour had and then he drove past them. When he saw that this particular one had a lot of sensitive information on it, for anybody to see, he lolled had and marvelled at how foolish this was. He took a bunch of photos of this billboard. He came driving past it for a while after to see if it was still there because he couldn't believe that Labour had no idea they erected this billboard with a whole lot of sensitive information splashed across it. Then he blogged about it. Oh yeah, and a person who works for the National party drove past it this one time and was so amazed at what he saw that he took a picture of it with his cellphone to show the boys at the office. But... but... but... clearly Labour didn't want people to see the billboard! I mean, sure, that put that stuff on a billboard for everyone to see but... they didn't mean for people to see it! Now, fixed_truth, your grizzle seems to be that you think National should have called up the opposition party and said "Hey, guys... uhh... look, I don't wanna tell you how to run your shit but... do you know about this billboard?" I don't see how it is even remotely the responsibility of National to look out for another party that ought to know how to sort their shit out like adults. The very notion that National should have told Labour about their fuck-up is laughable.
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15th June 2011, 18:46 | #101 | |
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Yeah, I don't disagree with the gist of your analogy (though its not yet clear in what order things happened).
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15th June 2011, 19:00 | #102 |
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I think you're incredibly naive.
Also, the order in which events occurred really doesn't make much difference at all.
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15th June 2011, 19:13 | #103 |
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Lolz naive. I'm actually not surprised that National failed to act here, but I'm naive because I expect the Govt. to do the right thing by its citizens eh. Choice.
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15th June 2011, 19:20 | #104 |
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This isn't the responsibility so do make out like it is
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15th June 2011, 19:27 | #105 |
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Yeah it wasn't Nationals responsibility to secure the information in the first place. But why isn't it their responsibility to report something like this if they discover it? (not talking about legal responsibility here)
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15th June 2011, 19:44 | #106 |
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So far, all we know is that a staffer had looked at the web site. We don't know any more than that. One guy. Not the government. Not the party. One guy who works for the party.
You seemed very desperate in your determination to implicate National in this no matter how tenuously. I suggest you give up.
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15th June 2011, 19:56 | #107 |
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Oh I see, when a Labour staffer fucks up it's all "The Labour PARTY is responsible for this". But when a National staffer does something it's "One guy. Not the government. Not the party. One guy who works for the party. "
And don't try on ^Bites^ trick of combining the two issues. I've stated on numerous occasions that Labour failing to secure it's website has nothing to do with National.
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15th June 2011, 19:59 | #108 |
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I never said that it was. I'm still talking about your naive idea that National should have alerted Labour to their fuckup. The point being that just because this one staffer knew, doesn't mean the rest of the party knew. I'm not trying to combine the issues. You're confused.
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15th June 2011, 20:11 | #109 |
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Cool bro. One staffer, sure. I'll let your mate ^Bites^ wank on to you for a few pages about how a company is responsibly for what its employees do/where the buck stops blah blah fuckity blah
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15th June 2011, 20:16 | #110 |
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Don't know whether this has been asked before. Would Fixed_truth be so affronted if the National Party web site had made the same mistake? And would he be really surprised of Labour had taken advantage of it? And if he'd noticed it would he have reported the issue to the site administrator?
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15th June 2011, 20:17 | #111 |
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I'm beginning to think you're a little bit nutty. Pretty bored of this conversation now. I'll leave you alone to rant to yourself about how National should be looking out for other people's screw ups.
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15th June 2011, 20:40 | #114 |
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A bit of both I think.
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15th June 2011, 22:30 | #115 | |
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15th June 2011, 22:58 | #117 |
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maybe his point should be that if anyone found personal information openly displayed like that you'd hope they reported it, regardless of position or relationship to any party.
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Are you seriously claiming what makes you secure is different servers? This whole thread is providing great additions for my "Do Not Hire" list.
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Yes by National doing the right thing by these people they would also be helping Labour, but I don't see this as a good reason not to act in this context.
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