The great combined Smrtphone OS thread

[wazza]

Thanks

[Ab]

MAN HUG

[wazza]

I try to avoid hostility in my universe, I'd rather apologise and be friends :P

[Cyberbob]

What if I bought something on my cool android phone, it worked, then my phone told me it needed an upgrade, and now the app doesn't work because the app wasn't compatible with that version of Android?

Is that somehow better?

[mr selfdestruct]

But that happens with iOS as well.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

But that happens with iOS as well.

I don't think it happens ... I could be wrong, but pretty sure every app I've ever used has been updated as new versions come out.

[crocos]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

But that happens with iOS as well.

Never encountered it.

[mr selfdestruct]

Cool I'll just pick one at random then, TradeMe app, only available on iPhone 3GS and above

Just because you haven't 'encountered' it before doesn't mean it doesnt happen.

EDIT: Actually thats not a fair example, it was never available on that OS, it wasn't available and then suddenly UNAVAILABLE.

[p01s0n]

is the trademe app available on all windows phones, mr sd?

[mr selfdestruct]

Originally Posted by p01s0n

is the trademe app available on all windows phones, mr sd?

Maybe, who knows? I'm talking about iOS vs Android.

[Golden Teapot]

How is that a valid example?

[TnT]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

Cool I'll just pick one at random then, TradeMe app, only available on iPhone 3GS and above
.

We're talking about phones that are over 3 years old dude. That's like saying 'Oh man I just brought the latest *<insert graphics heavy FPS game here>* AND IT WON'T RUN ON MY 3 YEAR OLD LAPTOP, FFS WHY CAN'T EVERYTHING JUST BE COMPATIBLE'

Seriously if you're going to get narky on wazza for making a stupid argument, don't do the very same thing yourself.

[Cyberbob]

Anyway, I was talking about apps that did work, and now don't.

[mr selfdestruct]

Yep calm down TnT i pretty much edited my post straight away and said it wasn't a fair comparison it'll be okay :P

I know as much about Android as I do about iOS so I can't even comment on whether what Cyberbob suggested even happens on Android.

[mr selfdestruct]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

Anyway, I was talking about apps that did work, and now don't.

Cool, got an actual example of this happening or just hypothesising that it's possible that this could potentially maybe be an issue on Android?

[TnT]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

I know as much about Android as I do about iOS so I can't even comment on whether what Cyberbob suggested even happens on Android.

[Ab]

Again with the fragmentation lols. Version conflicts are a problem that iOS just doesn't have, because almost everyone updates to the latest version of the OS the moment it's available, because it's available to everyone worldwide instantly. This means the developers can code for the latest version of iOS because that's what almost everyone uses.

Android 4 has been out since what, October last year? And it has been installed on what, 3% of eligible handsets?

[mr selfdestruct]

Originally Posted by TnT

Yes facepalm I didn't really read Cyberbobs post clearly my bad. I thought he was suggesting that all apps work on all versions of iOS but he wasn't saying that at all.

[mr selfdestruct]

Originally Posted by Ab

Android 4 has been out since what, October last year? And it has been installed on what, 3% of eligible handsets?

I thought it had only just officially started rolling out in the last few weeks.

Yes the fragmentation must be a fucking nightmare for devs, must be awesome fun fielding all the bugs for multiple manufacturers/versions.

[Ab]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

I thought it had only just officially started rolling out in the last few weeks.

Android 4.0 – codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, and based on Linux kernel 3.0.1 – was previewed at the May 2011 Google I/O event, and officially launched at the Galaxy Nexus and Ice Cream Sandwich release event on 19 October 2011

[chiQ]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

THANK YOU. Some sense. So this guy is probably saying Android is better cos he only has to pay for something once but what he's not realised is that, that is because he's actually using EXACTLY THE SAME app but on two platforms? :P

No. With Android you can release the same app more than once too. The fact that paid apps have been released by evil buggers as free apps with malware encoded into them makes this abundantly clear. You could sell one version of the app called 'HD' and lock it down to only certain tablets, and then release one locked down to only certain phones, and it would work the same way. It's just not so clearly and cleanly delineated by device class, as it is in the iTunes App Store, with 'iPad', 'iPhone', or 'Universal' (being both).

[DrTiTus]

In particular, I like the part where the mobile billboard becomes an oscilloscope.

[p01s0n]

lol yesssssss.
gruber infograph, the best infograph.

[mr selfdestruct]

This guy is Level VIII of the Apple religion. there is nowhere to go from here, he's completely converted and maxed out.

[p01s0n]

^ dumbfuck

[TnT]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

Yes facepalm I didn't really read Cyberbobs post clearly my bad. I thought he was suggesting that all apps work on all versions of iOS but he wasn't saying that at all.

That's not what the facepalm was for man... making arguments on a subject you admit to having no knowledge of... that's what the facepalm was for <- that one was because I had to explain it to you.

[mr selfdestruct]

Originally Posted by TnT

That's not what the facepalm was for man... making arguments on a subject you admit to having no knowledge of... that's what the facepalm was for <- that one was because I had to explain it to you.

I wasn't making any argument at all, I was asking you experts about the allegations the guy was making in the video.

[Rince]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

This guy is Level VIII of the Apple religion. there is nowhere to go from here, he's completely converted and maxed out.

whereas I just thought "what a douche"

[Ab]

You guys realize that the infographic was created by someone slamming Gruber, right?

[mr selfdestruct]

Apple make envious margins on their iPhones

The cost to produce the Lumia 900 is $217. Retail pricing is at $449.99.

In comparison, the iPhone 4S has a materials cost of $188 and a retail price of $650.

The Samsung SII Android Phone costs $235.50 in materials and is sold for $549.99.

Pretty sweet position to be in. If they ever felt threatened they could comfortably drop their price by 20%

[drone]

Originally Posted by Ab

You guys realize that the infographic was created by someone slamming Gruber, right?

The best part was who posted it here

[Cyberbob]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

Apple make envious margins on their iPhones

The cost to produce the Lumia 900 is $217. Retail pricing is at $449.99.

In comparison, the iPhone 4S has a materials cost of $188 and a retail price of $650.

The Samsung SII Android Phone costs $235.50 in materials and is sold for $549.99.

Pretty sweet position to be in. If they ever felt threatened they could comfortably drop their price by 20%

I agree, it's an awesome position to be in.
People will pay whatever they think it's worth. They're not going to change their spending habits just because they are suddenly told that xyz product has a huge markup.

[p01s0n]

Originally Posted by drone

The best part was who posted it here

OH WHOOPS I DUN GOOFED THERE!!!!!!!!

you fucking idiot.

[Ab]

Sony announces Android wristwatch

The jokes, they write themselves.

In other news, Sony Corp this week reported a record $6.4 billion annual net loss, double its earlier forecast and a fourth straight year of red ink.

[ala*]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...ently_launched

[mr selfdestruct]

Wow maybe sony should consolidate and stick to what they're good at......... does anyone know what they might be good at?

Playstation 4 seems unlikely now.......

[CCS]

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

Wow maybe sony should consolidate and stick to what they're good at......... does anyone know what they might be good at?

Yeah, broadcast gear.

[TnT]

Originally Posted by Ab

Sony announces Android wristwatch

The jokes, they write themselves.

[p01s0n]

cant wait for the full screen watchface mode with the android title bar complete with title bar clock.

[p01s0n]

meanwhile, iphone killer and new king-shit android iphone, the HTC one X, crashes the camera app when you try and take a photo of a complex pattern such as 'grass'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvocPsOLUMY