Latest article on Kiwis moving to Australia

[Omegakai]

Originally Posted by dead goon

about the price of your mum!

BURN!

OMG thats sooooooooooooooooooooo funny well done.

[dead goon]

cheers

btw, its about 10 years salary

[Cynos]

Originally Posted by Endymion

If by 'bog-all' you mean < $200,000, then OK.

The OECD says "stfu fool".



<Insert Mr T quote here>

[Draco T Bastard]

Originally Posted by Cynos

The OECD says "stfu fool".

[/img]http://www.oecd.org/vgn/images/portal/cit_731/52/32/36366632TaxingWages_Chart_1_1.jpg[/img]

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[/img]http://www.oecd.org/vgn/images/portal/cit_731/51/55/36366659TaxingWages_Chart_1_2.jpg[/img]

OMG, actual, acurate and unbiased information.

[Tarquin]

Kiwisaver contributions (assuming 4% level) will put the percentage-of-gross-wage result pretty much equal with Australia, mind you. (If their tax levels are still the same as in 2005, anyway - I can't remember if Rudd said anything about tax rates when he was elected.)

I'm not sure exactly what goes into the total "labour cost" figure, but I think the percentage taken up there will still be a bit less than Australia; just not by much.

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by Cynos

What I love is how commentators on this tend to blame NZ's taxation policies while simultanously ignoring two facts a) Our over-all taxation rate is lower than Australia, certain edge cases when you earn bog-all excluded, b) Australia happens to be having a major economic boom due to world demand for minerals.

A) is always contentious, but basically, people seem adverse to comparing apples with apples - in this case, New Zealand's income tax covers social security also, while Australia's income tax doesn't, that comes from payroll taxes which are usually not factored in.

Yeah but the government actually gives something back to the community in Australia. For example, if I buy a water efficient washing machine I get a $150 cash-back. I don't have to pay $11.95 for 4 rubbish bags per week and If I decided to invest in a house I get a $10k grant to kick it off.

It's that kind of shit that you would never get back home that makes Australia a better place to live. I honestly don't care if I'm paying 2% more in tax, because here I actually see where my money goes. In NZ I see my money goes into .. the Maori Channel?

[chubby]

lol- always the maaaareees.

[Trigger]

Originally Posted by Genesis

In NZ I see my money goes into .. the Maori Channel?

pretty much

[Ab]

On the other hand, beer is about twice as expensive in Australia. And you can't buy it in supermarkets.

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by Ab

On the other hand, beer is about twice as expensive in Australia. And you can't buy it in supermarkets.

Actually yeah, that was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here. That and the fact drinks here are usually fairly weak. I miss my 12% Codys

[LFC]

Meke my Waka and Maorioke are great programs.

[Omegakai]

Off subject rant.
cant wait for the nats to get in, and dislove the Maori eats and all funding to ny Maori only type projects (ie the Maori channel) fucking total waste of government funding imo.


and before any one tries to shovel comments about racism down my throat, im Maoir,im from Ngāti Porou and my great great grandfather is Sir Apirana Turupa Ngata. Whom might i add would turn in his fucking grave at the site of "his people" and what the fuck the get too.


YEs, I'm voting for National

[Fx.]

Originally Posted by Genesis

Actually yeah, that was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here. That and the fact drinks here are usually fairly weak. I miss my 12% Codys

mmmmmmmmm are you allowed to take booze overseas? i might be heading over that way in a month or three so could technically bring you some

[Ab]

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest...nearly_decades

[Juju]

I read that article this morning and thought "Gee, I wonder how long it will be before Ab makes a post on NZG quoting this article".

For someone who states that you are awfully proud of where you came from, you sure do rub the whole mass emmigration thing in a lot.

[Sgt Seb]

Originally Posted by leadinjector

yeah fuck actually working -in- the mines. my dad sits in an office and tells the younger people using small spanners what to do- doesnt do it himself, too old for that sort of thing now.

does he wear a shirt?

[Draco T Bastard]

Originally Posted by article

Opposition parties say people are voting against the Government with their feet.

Not according to the opposition parties - their voting with their feet against the employers who don't pay enough.

[Waldo]

Originally Posted by Draco T Bastard

Not according to the opposition parties - their voting with their feet against the employers who don't pay enough.

I honestly dont that there are enough armless people to swing the vote either way

[sky_]

Originally Posted by Cynos

Pretty pictures

Can you please explain what these graphs are showing?

[Lightspeed]

How is it housing prices are going up, when so many people must be leaving houses empty?

[Farmer Joe]

Originally Posted by Omegakai

Off subject rant.
cant wait for the nats to get in, and dislove the Maori eats and all funding to ny Maori only type projects (ie the Maori channel) fucking total waste of government funding imo.


and before any one tries to shovel comments about racism down my throat, im Maoir,im from Ngāti Porou and my great great grandfather is Sir Apirana Turupa Ngata. Whom might i add would turn in his fucking grave at the site of "his people" and what the fuck the get too.


YEs, I'm voting for National

I can't wait for you to move to Australia.

[Gentl e]

Originally Posted by sky_

Can you please explain what these graphs are showing?

It just shows NZ having the least amount of taxed income in comparison to other OECD countries. ie. Belgium pay a lot of tax on gross income...

However, I don't think these countries have GST, and student loans etc., so it's not a good comparison.

[Toksin]

Got a mate who worked as a geologist in Aus for 6 months last year. Made about $300 a day and made enough money to fund his whole postgrad study & living costs for this year.

He worked with a driller who was on $1k a day (who got taxed 50%! :O).

Big money in mining.

I love NZ, but want to spread my wings a bit and see what the rest of the world is like.

[Draco T Bastard]

Originally Posted by Gentl e

It just shows NZ having the least amount of taxed income in comparison to other OECD countries. ie. Belgium pay a lot of tax on gross income...

However, I don't think these countries have GST, and student loans etc., so it's not a good comparison.

If you add GST to NZ then the tax will go up to about 30% but to still make it a good comparison you would have to add GST to all the other countries that use it - like Australia, some states in the US, UK etc.


In other words - it's a good enough comparison to show that NZ is less taxed than most other OECD countries.

[leadinjector]

doesnt changed the fact that you get paid less as well though.

[Draco T Bastard]

Originally Posted by leadinjector

doesnt changed the fact that you get paid less as well though.

No it doesn't but it does show that those who think we're taxed more are talking out of their fucken arse.

[Gentl e]

Originally Posted by Draco T Bastard

No it doesn't but it does show that those who think we're taxed more are talking out of their fucken arse.

Yeah, but if it's all.. "if you tweak here and add this, then deduct that"

ala

Originally Posted by Draco T Bastard

If you add GST to NZ then the tax will go up to about 30% but to still make it a good comparison you would have to add GST to all the other countries that use it - like Australia, some states in the US, UK etc.

It waters your argument down a little from this lofty position:

Originally Posted by Draco T Bastard

OMG, actual, acurate and unbiased information.

[Juju]

Originally Posted by Toksin

I love NZ, but want to spread my wings a bit and see what the rest of the world is like.

So why go to Australia? Its 90% much the same as NZ. Hardly spreading the wings.

[Ab]

Originally Posted by Juju

So why go to Australia? Its 90% much the same as NZ. Hardly spreading the wings.

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. Australia's not NZ, but it's not exactly "seeing the world".

[Word]

Originally Posted by Ab

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. Australia's not NZ, but it's not exactly "seeing the world".

For sure. But thats kinda a good reason to go. Easy move

You can't buy beer on sundays i think. So you gotta do the small supply in the closet next to the front door thing.

Its hot. Insects are bigger/more deadly, water tastes like crap (if there is enough to go round) In NSW they have the worst cars. Crimes worse too.

They are racist mo-fos too.

[MadLep]

Originally Posted by Ab

On the other hand, beer is about twice as expensive in Australia. And you can't buy it in supermarkets.

I saw James Boags in the supermarket in Wellington when I was there over xmas.
$9 for a 6-pack!
That shit costs $18 in Aussie - and they had to import it to get it in NZ as well!

Beer in Australia is a rip.

[Sp0nge]

i considered moving to australia years ago because i thought the grass was greener there...
so went for a holiday to have a look....
but the grass was brown and there were watering restrictions.

anyway, NZ is not as consumed by consumerism as most other places, and hippies like it here.

living here is awesome.

[lektronimo]

What is Melbourne like? I like big cities that have nice architecture/european influence (and girls). Can anyone give me a rundown on why I shouldn't go there to live?

P.S. I'm in A(f)uckland right now...

[Fx.]

whereas i want to do the whole europe thing and am tempted to do the aussie thing for a year or so, see some sights, mebe earn a bit more and help finance the europe thing

shall seeeeee

[Draco T Bastard]

Originally Posted by Gentl e

Yeah, but if it's all.. "if you tweak here and add this, then deduct that"

ala

It waters your argument down a little from this lofty position:

It hasn't in anyway, shape or form changed the data supplied or the bias. Nor has it changed the fact that you still get to pay more tax is Australia overall which is what the hoohaa is all about.


BTW, most countries in the OECD have some form of value added tax (GST)

Of the twenty-nine OECD countries which levy a value added tax (VAT)

So even going 'add this, take that' makes little or no difference anyway.

[MadMax]

deep down, perhaps subconsciously ab misses nz. we keep hearing this stuff from him because the news articles seem to justify his decision to move.

da- *stab* -rk

[Ab]

Aussie interest rates just went up again - 10 increases in a row...

[Ab]

Originally Posted by MadMax

deep down, perhaps subconsciously ab misses nz

gee, d'ya THINK?

[MadMax]

... but it's ok cause we're all here for ya

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by Fx.

mmmmmmmmm are you allowed to take booze overseas? i might be heading over that way in a month or three so could technically bring you some

Hahaha mint bro! Hit us up when you get here, might be able to hook you up with a room (if the missus allows it - fucken oats I'm whipped).