Random Thoughts II

[Rince]

who has right of way at entrance ways/driveways?

pedestrians or cars?

example: walking along a footpath, and a car swings in to a parking building's entrance (without indicating, but let's ignore that fact for now), in front of me, just missing me.

Who had the right of way? If it had been a road/lane/street etc then I don't have the right of way and should be looking out - (no matter what the vast majority of pedestrians think)

But pulling into (or coming out of, for that matter) a driveway/entrance way, who has it right - should the car give way to the foot traffic, or should the walkers give way to the car? Also ignore the "what if" argument of the result of a collision and who would be worse off.

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy

how do they intend to pay for that?

The same way we used too I imagine...

Pixie

[chiquelet]

Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy

how do they intend to pay for that?

Haven't followed the story closely, that's an interesting point though. Won't be hard to find out, I'll look. The French have a different approach to advertising during tv shows anyway - no constant ad breaks the way we have here, i.e. the news is shown in one go, and then you're stuck with 10 mins of ads after.

[dead goon]

Curb Your Enthusiasm rules.

[Sp0nge]

Originally Posted by Rince

who has right of way at entrance ways/driveways?
.

i think it depends on the circumstances, but if the driver saw you and still hit you she'd be at fault.

the road coad is not much help:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/abo...destrians.html

and "share the road" seems to be the focus:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-sa...destrians.html

[SpaceCowboy]

i dont think there is a rule as such.. it just comes down to courtesy on all sides, and common sense.

[CCS]

Originally Posted by Rince

who has right of way at entrance ways/driveways?

pedestrians or cars?

Pedestrians have right of way. There's still a duty of care thing for both the driver and the pedestrian, but if you're walking along and someone just swings into a driveway that you're already on or close to being on and they've given no indication that they were about to do that, then they're most definately in the wrong and they've not exercised duty of care.

[Juju]

Another road question.
The exit onto the main road from my street has a left turn arrow painted on the road, but no 'left turn only' sign. (There is only one lane).

Is it illegal to turn right?

[Hurtuso]

Originally Posted by dead goon

Curb Your Enthusiasm rules.

[Juju]

Originally Posted by Rince

who has right of way at entrance ways/driveways?

pedestrians or cars?

example: walking along a footpath, and a car swings in to a parking building's entrance (without indicating, but let's ignore that fact for now), in front of me, just missing me.

Who had the right of way? If it had been a road/lane/street etc then I don't have the right of way and should be looking out - (no matter what the vast majority of pedestrians think)

But pulling into (or coming out of, for that matter) a driveway/entrance way, who has it right - should the car give way to the foot traffic, or should the walkers give way to the car? Also ignore the "what if" argument of the result of a collision and who would be worse off.

Hrm, heres something from an old Ask Phoebe column (Traffic advise column in NZHerald)

Of growing concern is the number of motorists who evidently believe they have right of way over the footpath. My wife and I were almost flattened three times in Mission Bay by drivers leaving driveways under the impression they did not have to watch for pedestrians on the footpath. I've also noticed drivers leaving carparks in the city, even those with warning buzzers, without checking to see if anyone is on the footpath. Who has the right of way on the pavement, pedestrians or drivers? Even when there is an audible alarm to indicate to pedestrians that a car is about to come out of a building? Brett Hewson, Remuera.

The road rules state unequivocally that when drivers are entering or leaving a driveway that crosses a footpath, they must give way to people using the footpath, alarm or no alarm.

The road code also says, in the section for pedestrians, that they should be careful when crossing driveways. It's called duty of care and it applies to everyone.

[xor]

Mark Waugh standing at second slip, the new player (Adam Parore) comes to the crease playing and missing the first ball.
Mark - “Ohh, I remember you from a couple years ago in Australia. You were shit then, you’re fucking useless now”.
Parore- (Turning around) “Yeah, that’s me and when I was there you were going out with that old, ugly slut and now I hear you’ve married her. You dumb cunt”.

[SpaceCowboy]

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/...ight-want.html

bob dylan's acceptance speech at the NECLC 1963 awards, and subsequent explanation. hillariously insightful.

[Sp0nge]

some nice lines in bob dylan's explanation letter/poem/song:

"I do not claim t be smart by the standards set up
I dont even claim to be normal by the standards
set up
an I do not claim to know any kind of truth"

"my life carries eyes
an they're there for one reason
the reason t see thru them"

"an my songs speak for me because I write them"

[smudge]

Pesky Accounts Woman! I shall replace you with a very small debtors report!

[DrTiTus]

Was it just me or were others reminded of Sp0nge's typing style when reading that Bob Dylan stuff?

[crocos]

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

Was it just me or were others reminded of Sp0nge's typing style when reading that Bob Dylan stuff?

Ssh! His head is swollen enough as it is!

(but yes)

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Rince

who has right of way at entrance ways/driveways?

pedestrians or cars?

example: walking along a footpath, and a car swings in to a parking building's entrance (without indicating, but let's ignore that fact for now), in front of me, just missing me.

it would be illogical to expect pedestrians to look up and down the road before they crossed every driveway as they walked down a residential street. a footpath is an unbroken path whereas a vehicle turning into a driveway is making a manoeuvre where they should be ensuring the path is clear for them to do so.

i would have kicked the car with my steel cap boot (without leaving a mark). they wont be able to see you doing it, they'll only hear a knock which could have come from anywhere. just continue walking like nothing happened.

[com]

*yaaawwnnn*

[caffiend]

Ferrari F1 team will be sponsored in 2009 by... wait for it... Tata.

The makers of the world's cheapest car.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=10548735

Irony++, and yet further proof that F1 is now a rotting corpse.

[flic]

Having just read a learners test I can say that one (correct) answer to a question on it clearly indicates you must check the way is clear before entering a driveway of any kind

after indicating for three seconds first

[Evoke]

w.t.f.

KIMIwimmie: check the temp. or something
BIGDADDYO57: temp here is - 46 c thats about 35 below zero
EvokeNZ: how can -46c be 35 below zero?
BIGDADDYO57: well - 30 is 20 below f
KIMIwimmie: I know 6c is 40f, so thats probably right
BIGDADDYO57: no
BIGDADDYO57: i got a thermometer here
EvokeNZ: -46C is -50.8F
EvokeNZ: -46F is -43C
KIMIwimmie: wtf?
BIGDADDYO57: no im not talking 46 degrees
BIGDADDYO57: im talking minus 46
EvokeNZ: what do you measure temperature in in Canada? metres?
BIGDADDYO57: yes metric

[Reformed_Quint]

Originally Posted by Evoke

EvokeNZ: what do you measure temperature in in Canada? metres?
BIGDADDYO57: yes metric

hahahaha that is fucking awesome.

[dead goon]

Sweet dreams of rhythm and dancing. Sweet dreams of lollings throughhhh the night.

[CCS]

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

[Redneck]

Put "Letter" size paper in the Paper Cartridge because there isn't any left in there.

[fidgit]

Originally Posted by CCS

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

It's a podcast!

http://code.google.com/p/pcloadletter/

[BloodDonor]

http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm


wtf

[Nightcrawler]

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Ok, thanks Youtube!

[Mickey]

So quiet on here when the 04 lot go drinking.

[Ritalin]

Not all of the 04 lot go drinking...

[ChaosWulf]

Nope

[Mickey]

Im hoping to see drunken photos.

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by Ritalin

Not all of the 04 lot go drinking...

Yeah... I'm at home...


Drinking...

<cough>

Pixie

[though I'm waiting for dinner then going out]

[ala*]

Originally Posted by fidgit

It's a podcast!

http://code.google.com/p/pcloadletter/

are you serious

[flic]

p-b: did you really need to text your reply to my IRC comment at 4am this morning?

Or can I blame your dodgy phone provider and not the fact you'd just got home drunk?

[cycodamo]

I've always thought pedestrians had right of way on driveways/entrances, they're on the footpath after all. So vehicles should wait for them although, yeah some common sense comes into it.

Year of the Cycos, the new compilation album by Suicidal Tendencies is excellent.

[cEvin]

Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

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Ok, thanks Youtube!

whoa, that's fuckin underground

[caffiend]

Originally Posted by Mickey

Im hoping to see drunken photos.

Oh I think there'll be some turning up.

I guess crocos is still sleeping it off somewhere - perhaps under a shrub down a bank in the botanical gardens...

[Cyberbob]

I quickly just talked to him on msn, photos are on his laptop, laptop is at mongores.

crocos has just gone back to sleep

[Mickey]

A nice little earner for all you photography buffs. We have just taken our dog to get a santa photo at Animates. I figured we would be the only idiots doing this but alas there were ten people with dogs ahead of us and when we left at least fifteen still waiting.

The prices started at $15 for one photo or $35 for the whole pack. All they had was a skinny santa next to a pretty tree. Wouldnt cost that much to set up and animal lovers were flocking to it.