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8th April 2020, 12:05 | #526 |
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Trump just put all payments on hold to WHO. "they got it wrong"
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8th April 2020, 12:21 | #527 |
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Reporter question, "is it a good time to freeze funding during a pandemic?
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8th April 2020, 13:14 | #528 |
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The WHO has been absolutely fucking useless.
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8th April 2020, 13:37 | #529 |
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Fair enough, i guess its better not to have a world organisation. Best just let each country deal with things on their own.
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8th April 2020, 13:47 | #530 |
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The NZH is in no place to call out the WHO. The WHO is exactly what those who fund it want it to be.
World leadership is what's absolutely fucking useless.
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8th April 2020, 15:36 | #534 |
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I was watching Trump's daily word salad for my morning cringe today, and he went on one of his babbling tangents, this time criticising the WHO for being useless, and I found myself going "actually, yeah, Trump's right on this bit" and I felt dirty.
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8th April 2020, 15:38 | #535 |
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It's the same phenomena behind the state of the WHO and Trump being in power.
We don't step up to China, but we expect the WHO which depends on China to exist to do so? We're fucking cunts.
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8th April 2020, 15:41 | #536 | |
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8th April 2020, 16:12 | #537 |
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I'm sceptical that refers to the full funding the WHO relies on to function.
In NZ we had a government gut our public health services while telling us everything was fine. The subsequent problems that came to pass were only predicted by boring people. Anyone exciting enough to get some attention the government was free to slag off and ignore. That government eventually lost power, but the dominant party of that government still retains most of its votes. That's how it goes now. People are eager to hear everything is okay and not much else. That's New Zealand. Much worse is acceptable the world over. There is no us and them. It's just us. This is our world, we're responsible for it. Unless you consider yourself so pathetic that you're living someone else's life? Or so grandiose that you're the rare stalwart of decency?
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I had already done the research. Just making space for knowledge I don't have. Only 25% of the WHO's funding comes from compulsory contributions.
Realpolitik is a dynamic, one we play a part in. If we're not the point of intervention, what is? Oh, hello nCov 2019.
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I'm not making some esoteric claim here (about the document you produced), you can find it for yourself. And behaviour of the WHO towards China's interests reveal their dependence on Chinese funding.
I get you don't understand my meaning. You can suggest my words are meaningless if you like.
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I'm not offering a thesis, nor engaging in formal debate. If you're not interested, you're not interested.
My understanding is that 25% of the WHO's funding comes from compulsory contributions, the rest being up to anyone who has an interest in the WHO, whatever those interests night be. It wasn't hard to verify this. We're also seeing strong critique of the WHO. You've suggested the WHO have a particular role with particular responsibilities. These might be as real as moral authority. How do we know or decide? I'm referring to the values and behaviour of the world, our focus on the behaviours of others. Our role, individually, locally, internationally, are not things up for consideration or critique. If something is up, we look outwards, not inwards. This works or it doesn't. In your observations, is our pursuit for economic glory working?
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It turns out I'm not interested. You're not offering any kind of interesting engagement, you're just picking.
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8th April 2020, 21:17 | #553 |
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Oh wait, I know. I've embarrassed you by pointing out that you didn't know that most of the WHO's funding isn't accounted for in the document you're aware of. That's why you're asking me to "show my working", as if telling you the set of words I entered into Google demonstrates anything.
You're just having a boo-hoo.
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8th April 2020, 22:29 | #555 |
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My understanding is it's more complex than that. No, I can't produce everything I've read or watched that is the basis for this understanding.
Tell me more about the WHO and its survival that's so easy. You're saying it gets adequate funding and support for its mission, hence your high expectations of it?
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Therefore, how responsible can the WHO be for its failures? It's being set up to fail, because leaders find failure more palatable than the risk of being held responsible. Of course a WHO representative is going to dodge hairy questions like Taiwanese membership. Taiwan is a hot button issue anyone hoping to deal with the Chinese are smart to avoid. That's realpolitik.
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