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You mean to say I don't always look stupid? pxpx that's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said to me.
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28th January 2015, 23:11 | #162 | |
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Basically yes: The entire "left" handed the Nats the government by making themselves look like the worse option.
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28th January 2015, 23:56 | #164 |
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There have been several leaks of the TPP, with media discussing the contents.
The secret part is a) it wasn't supposed to be leaked, b) the final agreement will be signed without its contents at the point of signing being made public.
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29th January 2015, 00:11 | #165 |
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So I'm a dumb shit for not having seen the leak? Hooooboy. I guess I need to get on Phil Goff's mailing list.
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29th January 2015, 00:14 | #166 |
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Talking about shit you don't know shit about? Well, we make mistakes. Talking about shit you don't know shit about but everyone else does? Dumb shit.
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29th January 2015, 00:16 | #167 |
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Off on Planet Lolspeed again eh.
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29th January 2015, 10:02 | #168 |
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I figured you'd miss that.
This Civilian article reminds me of Ab's recent comments about indifference: Key hopes state housing plan will ensure no one like him ever becomes Prime Minister again
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29th January 2015, 18:33 | #169 |
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30th January 2015, 12:19 | #171 |
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Quality satire.
Here's a little more bruising. Most rivers in New Zealand too dirty for a swim Particularly when you consider how National responded to Fish & Game's raising of this issue before the election with threats of removing their statutory powers. "Stop crying, you fucking love it."
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1st February 2015, 20:10 | #172 | |
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Asking wheter Little is a better match for Mr Key than his predecessors isn't very helpful. But this is promising start:
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1st February 2015, 21:05 | #173 |
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Only Ms Clark was higher..... so how much higher was she? Article headline says he's rivalling Clark but doesn't directly compare?
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Comparing him to other recent Labour leaders shows only that - 11 weeks in and untested - he's coming first place out of a bunch of losers.
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1st February 2015, 21:28 | #175 |
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If 28% of people want to vote labour, why do less than 10% want Little as PM ?
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1st February 2015, 22:24 | #176 |
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I predict he will be a fuckup and get rolled.
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2nd February 2015, 08:59 | #177 |
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2nd February 2015, 11:46 | #178 |
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That awkward moment when that buffoon Rodney Hide is singing your praises:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11394722
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3rd February 2015, 14:50 | #179 |
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Little has to build an organisation that can win a campaign in three years time. That means he needs money. That means he needs donors. That means he needs business-friendly messaging. That means the left side of his caucus will feel betrayed and start sharpening knives.
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3rd February 2015, 15:09 | #180 |
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Gotta wonder how democratic our democracy is when you've got to align yourself with money grubbers to win an election. Isn't that more of a plutocracy?
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3rd February 2015, 15:21 | #181 |
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Campaigning to be the government costs money. You think David Farrar works for free?
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3rd February 2015, 15:28 | #182 |
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Yes but how about the ethics behind it? Fucking mental
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Meaning a successful political party has two options: to appeal to the values of New Zealanders, or to develop relationships with the richest of NZ (or those with interests in NZ.) Is that the foundation of NZ democracy? It may well be, I'm certainly not strong on NZ's political history beyond Michael Savage FTW.
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3rd February 2015, 19:11 | #185 |
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Pfft. The values of New Zealanders are whatever the Labour Party says they are.
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And is that where the money is being spent? It's not being spent attempting to influence values instead?
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3rd February 2015, 19:38 | #188 |
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http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2014/09/reality-adjacent/
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Yeah, well, it's a fair point. If you spend your money learning how to win an election you'll greatly improve your changes of winning an election. Too bad for those spending their money on learning how to improve the lives of all NZers. I appreciate I'm naive in hoping for good faith in the political process.
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That's true. Does that mean we have to accept those most able to grasp at power as our leaders? My understanding was our democratic institutions are designed to put limits on the use of power to achieve positions of authority. And I thought that this came with a degree of good faith, that people who found themselves in positions of authority would not be primarily using that position to secure that authority.
Like everyone I was somewhat younger when Labour was in power. Did they also have the problem of their MPs having to step down one after the other for either abuses of their position or other problematic behaviour given their responsibilities? I remember that MP who was convicted for using illegal labour in exchange for immigration assistance. I can't recall if he held a senior position, like chair of the Law & Order committee.
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4th February 2015, 13:20 | #195 |
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During the Savage Labour government all public radio broadcasts of any sort were controlled by the Prime Minister's office. Every word spoken on air literally required the approval of the Prime Minister. Savage's famous quote of the regime was "The government is going to be the master of publicity". Savage took over as Minister of Broadcasting, wrote and approved his own speeches praising the Labour Government and its policies, and made it mandatory for all radio stations to broadcast them in full. "Propaganda of a controversial nature" was banned from the air for the public good, and surprise surprise the definition of "propaganda of a controversial nature" officially included anything said or done by His Majesty's Loyal Opposition. You could not choose a MORE RETARDED EXAMPLE when talking about using influence to secure power. Compared to the Savage Labour government, Key's National government is a bunch of altruistic charity workers on truth drugs. LRN2HISTORY |
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4th February 2015, 14:45 | #197 |
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And the result was Savage and his cronies were left enriched with a large proportion of NZers struggling with poverty?
If so, do you have anything to convince me of that? I don't benefit from the same education you do. By the time I showed up, much of the welfare state had been disestablished.
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4th February 2015, 14:50 | #198 |
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I forgot, you're an "ends justify the means" guy.
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4th February 2015, 14:52 | #199 |
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lol, I did not know that about Savage. Cheers for the learning Ab.
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lolz, one story and you're convinced, eh? That's some quality knowledge right there.
I guess that's what you guys are in it for, the story (as long as you're not the ones falling into poverty I bet.)
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