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7th November 2011, 17:34 | #81 | |
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My favorite bit is free dental for pregnant mums....aren't dental procedures differed when a woman is pregnant? I remember I read that somewhere. |
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7th November 2011, 19:14 | #83 |
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^ yep. Well, anything requiring anaesthetic is out.
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7th November 2011, 19:57 | #84 |
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Oh well if that's the only thing stopping them then I think they should be good to take advantage of it - I hear women have higher pain tolerances than men.
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Most of the policy I don’t have a problem with as child poverty is a problem in NZ and we need to get serious about investing in this group, and comparatively it’s not that costly.
But, although I know most beneficiaries are genuine – I would like to have seen some of the money that goes straight to parents have gone into more intervention services instead. Also although Labour has been careful in showing their costings to be affordable; a lot of the policy seems to be not starting for a few years and like National they’re using Treasury’s growth forecasts.
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8th November 2011, 12:22 | #87 | |
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8th November 2011, 21:24 | #88 | |
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9th November 2011, 11:07 | #89 |
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Labour desperation on Working for Families
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This ignores the wider policy which provides financial incentives to work and reduces financial barriers to work ie. min. wage increase, cheaper childcare cost, extending maternity leave etc. I would argue that the problem is not that people don't want to work it's just that there's not enough jobs atm. And that in fact "bludgers" make up a tiny minority of people not working. Of the total number of people unemployed in the September quarter 2,800 people (1.85%) have been unemployed for over two years. 83.3% of those unemployed have been so for less than a year. http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_...PSep11qtr.aspx
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9th November 2011, 13:23 | #92 |
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Labour's toxic.
I disagree that these latest announcements are an attempt to steal support from the Greens. Rather, I suspect that they are bribes to Labour's die-hard core union/beneficiary voter base to try and stop them jumping ship to the Greens. Labour's not trying to win over other parties' supporters - it's trying to stop its own from leaving. |
9th November 2011, 13:29 | #93 | |
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10th November 2011, 15:20 | #94 |
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It just keeps getting better!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ving-wage-Goff So the PM who works near on 18hours a day, doesn't get paid because he donates his whole salary to charity, made his money BEFORE he became PM doesn't deserve a holiday, paid for by his own money in his own house in Hawaii which he paid for himself.... /facepalm |
10th November 2011, 15:43 | #95 |
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If you earn well, Labour hates you. That's really how it is. Got a nice car? Labour hates you. Got 5 kids that you can't afford? Labour loves you.
Just don't mention the property portfolios of any Labour politicians.
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10th November 2011, 16:09 | #96 | |
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Policy, not personalities! |
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10th November 2011, 16:44 | #97 |
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So he preaches to the choir in South Auckland with comments he knows will get some claps for him, even though it's a waste of time as chances are they were already going to vote labour anyway (If they get off their ass and actually go to the voting booth). But at the same time, 'forgetting' (I say forget because I can't think of any other reason) that those comments are recorded and publicised, making him look like a fool to the rest of the country.
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10th November 2011, 16:50 | #98 | |
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Giving people a living wage would benefit everyone, and it's pretty fucking annoying watching the people at the top dictate to the unwashed masses that they shouldn't have one (or try to justify the view that such a thing is unfeasible) while they themselves are doing just fine. |
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10th November 2011, 17:00 | #99 | ||
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It's also interesting how lefties hate anyone who earns well and carry on like wealthy people are conspiring to keep the poor people down. Labour would be better off helping poor people to do better for themselves instead of keeping them dependent on the govt. There was a poor family on the news the other night. This woman was complaining about how hard it was to pay for five kids... whoa... wait... wat? Oh right, kids, they're expensive but they just keep popping out like a fricking embryonic toaster! Labour doesn't want to tell poor people that having more kids than you can afford is bad because then poor people would hate them. Better to keep giving them WFF because that keeps them in a debt of gratitude! Quote:
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10th November 2011, 19:17 | #101 |
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I like holidays in Hawai'i. Does that make me a prick?
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10th November 2011, 19:19 | #102 |
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Yes. Die in a fire you nuveo Australian bastard!
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10th November 2011, 19:27 | #104 | |
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10th November 2011, 20:57 | #105 | |
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Yay! Free laptops for the poors!
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10th November 2011, 21:24 | #107 | |
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Waitaminnit... what if... What if National offers you laptops for your kids AND $1000 for you?!
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10th November 2011, 21:58 | #108 | |
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If you can support your claim with some of this documentation I'll admit I'm wrong.
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11th November 2011, 01:57 | #109 | ||
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As to your other allegation, to quote the great George Carlin, "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." I have no problem with rich people, until they start acting like dicks. Quote:
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11th November 2011, 02:31 | #110 | |
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This whole idea that "National are rich pricks who hate poor pricks and want the worst for everyone and Labour are loving caring hugbunnies who care deeply about the poor and want the best for everyone" is just delusional partisanism. You'd be better off focusing on reality instead of toeing the party dogma.
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11th November 2011, 02:33 | #111 |
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Oh btw, adonis, have you always hated currency traders or did you, like a lot of die-hard lefties, only start hating currency traders once one was elected prime minister?
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11th November 2011, 07:47 | #112 |
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Raising minimum wage won't cost jobs - Treasury
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Marketing is probably the biggest reason for this. Advertising is basically a constant state of one-up-manship for companies since when products and advertising standards become more and more homogenised it basically comes down to who spends the most money. Market share becomes increasingly expensive and new players are often unable to enter into existing markets which hampers market correction. What this all means is that while marketing is needed in a market economy (obviously) the level of marketing we have is only a reflection of our dependence on having a process of redistribution currency to keep the whole damn thing running, the economy would fall over without the marketing industry. The thing is, you've actually ignored my point anyway. I object to the idea that JK is often looked on with admiration for being a "self made man", when the reality is that the global economic meltdown that is currently occurring was created by the kind of practices he employed to make his millions. Quote:
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11th November 2011, 23:07 | #116 | |
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11th November 2011, 23:45 | #117 |
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whatever ccs said...adonis rulz.
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12th November 2011, 23:24 | #118 | |
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10765541
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13th November 2011, 01:25 | #119 |
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There's a bit of a difference between forming partnerships with parties after they've been voted in and trying to sway voters to get Banks in so that they can shore up their percentages via the Act party...
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13th November 2011, 02:19 | #120 | |
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The Leader of the Labour Party has just announced that the Labour Party don't need no stinkin' referendum or Electoral Commission. A Labour Government will review the system. The Leader of the Labour Party has just announced, in the national media, that Labour will decide how we choose the government. This, from the party that gave us the Electoral Finance Act. If that's not a reason to vote to keep Labour out of power I don't know what is. |
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