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Old 3rd February 2019, 18:32     #55
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No, if you're fucking someone up you're fucking them up. The fuckingupness does not logically entail violence, unless you're redefining violence to a point where the definition is meaningless.

A person who suffers horrible mentally-scarring things without positive interpersonal acts of force involving injury has not experienced violence. Mental torture, psychological abuse, call it whatever. But it's not violence.
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