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Originally Posted by ZoSo
...very hard to find a better long form discussion which unpacks some of this and it's spread.
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No it isn't very hard to find background on it - you could start with the Wikipedia page which literally outlines the different theories which it draws from and how it has developed over time - and the critiques of it from other directions. But sure, got to some talk back radio style youtube clip if you think that's a reliable source.
And just for the sake of rebuttal I made my judgement on what they said and the tone that it was delivered. Had no idea one of them was a comedian or who the other was - judgement based on content (which from the short snippet I consumed was nothing that I hadn't heard before).