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Ab	16th July 2016 20:16

turkey

Jesus, what a clusterfuck. looks like the coup has failed?

MadMax

16th July 2016 21:20

The world in general is a bit ... weird lately

CCS	16th July 2016 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

looks like the coup has failed?

That's a shame.

cyc	16th July 2016 21:45

Was John Key anywhere near Turkey? If so, it might be his fault.

lolspeed

CCS	16th July 2016 22:31

I blame TPP.

cyc	16th July 2016 22:55

Oh fuck off, it's the National Party's fault!

:rolleyes: :mad:

lolspeed

Lightspeed

16th July 2016 23:43

Awww, poor cyc. People on the internets see things differently to him! Oh, what to do! lolz

Lightspeed

17th July 2016 13:44

Interesting analysis:

Turkey's coup may have failed – but history shows that it won’t be long before another one succeeds

MadMax

17th July 2016 21:49

^ the internet says, good luck with that: https://medium.com/@thegrugq/cyberpo...780#.wvlqndbhu

Heyzoos

18th July 2016 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

^ the internet says, good luck with that: https://medium.com/@thegrugq/cyberpo...780#.wvlqndbhu

A+

Nothing

18th July 2016 16:59

I've been reading this book recently:

The Next 100 Years by George Friedman, who forecasts Turkey and Japan to start WW4 in 2050. Interesting read.

Ab	18th July 2016 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

^ the internet says, good luck with that: https://medium.com/@thegrugq/cyberpo...780#.wvlqndbhu

In other words the administration was able to survive because of the existence of internet messaging tools despite the administration's attempts to stamp out internet messaging tools?

Nothing

18th July 2016 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

In other words the administration was able to survive because of the existence of internet messaging tools despite the administration's attempts to stamp out internet messaging tools?

I, too, had this thought.

Jodi	19th July 2016 11:35

They should have learnt from Thailand's coup and just killed power to the major citys to turn off the internet.

Heyzoos

19th July 2016 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

They should have learnt from Thailand's coup and just killed power to the major citys to turn off the internet.

http://opengarden.com/about-firechat

Jodi	19th July 2016 16:35

Nice link, FF said it had an invalid cert. lol.

Anyway, the problems with all those types of apps is that they require everyone to have one installed. Most people have twitter/insta/facebook installed, not all will have something like open garden.

Lightspeed

19th July 2016 16:47

There's been no shortage of commentary suggesting the whole thing could have been staged as pretext for a crackdown.

[Malks] Pixie

19th July 2016 16:55

This is always worth remembering about the role of the military in turkey...

Quote:

However, after the coups d'état in 1960, the Millî Birlik Komitesi (National Unity Committee) established the Inner Service Act of the Turkish Armed Forces on 4 January 1961 to legitimize their military interventions in politics. In subsequent coup d'états and coup d'état attempts, they showed reasons to justify their political activities especially with the article 35 and 85 of this act.

The Turkish military perceived itself as the guardian of Kemalist ideology, the official state ideology, especially of the secular aspects of Kemalism. The TAF still maintains an important degree of influence over the decision making process regarding issues related to Turkish national security, albeit decreased in the past decades, via the National Security Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkis...rkish_politics

crocos

20th July 2016 13:54

You say "remembering", I say "learning for the first time"... :p

Heyzoos

20th July 2016 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

So what? It's more to make a point that "killing the Internet" isn't enough to suppress an uprising as proven by the Hong Kong riots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-kong-protests

Jodi	21st July 2016 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyzoos

So what? It's more to make a point that "killing the Internet" isn't enough to suppress an uprising as proven by the Hong Kong riots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-kong-protests

Ok, fair enuff. Point taken.

Lightspeed

22nd July 2016 14:48

It's fucking scary in Turkey right now. Hearing the president in a live interview talking about how they're questioning those they've arrested and how confident he is they'll get more names of people to arrest and question gave me chills.

I can't see Erdogan ever surrendering power peacefully.

madmaxii

22nd July 2016 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

I can't see Erdogan ever surrendering power peacefully.

One of the few times I totally agree with Lightspeed. The purges are very Stalinist :(

Lightspeed

17th June 2017 23:25

Turkish government destroys iconic Anzac monument at Gallipoli

Fucking bullshit.

CCS	18th June 2017 10:16

Cunts.

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