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Ab 3rd November 2011 19:27

Polls Nov 2011
 
Herald:

Quote:

Labour's support has slipped in the first week of the election campaign to below 30 per cent, in the latest DigiPoll survey released this afternoon.

Labour is on 29.1 per cent, the first time Labour has been in the 20s in the 12 years the Herald has been running DigiPoll surveys.

The poll will be running weekly until the election.

Labour's fall of 1.2 points over the week may not be much of a fall but it will be a psychological blow for the party to fall below 30 per cent.

The Green party on 10.1 per cent is its highest DigiPoll rating since the 2002 election campaign at the height of the Corngate GE crops scandal.

It would have 13 MPs under current polling.

No other party reaches 2 per cent in the party vote, but the Colin Craig-led Conservative Party has featured in Party vote ratings for the first time, with 1.1 per cent.*

That is higher than Act on 0.9 per cent, United Future on 0.5 and Mana on 0.1.

National's polling is up by 0.7 points to 54.2 per cent, which would give it a clear majority to govern alone.
* wtf

ZoSo 3rd November 2011 19:37

What? I thought Polls good for Left.

Monthly comparison for the Herald one:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10763639

One's latest as well:
http://tvnz.co.nz/election-2011/nati...-shows-4502058

CCS 3rd November 2011 19:37

There's no wtf there. Act voters need somewhere to go and they'll be trying out Conservative. Colin Craig comes across as much more reasonable than most Act members, hasn't had time yet to develop any bad stigma. He has some daft policies though.

fixed_truth 3rd November 2011 19:54

polls polls bloody polls

Labour gains ground in latest poll - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...in-latest-poll

Gap closes between Key and Goff in poll - http://www.3news.co.nz/Gap-closes-be...2/Default.aspx

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...-October-polls

fixed_truth 9th November 2011 08:31


fixed_truth 12th November 2011 09:03

All sorts of crazy shit going on in the latest herald digipoll - Poll shock as Nats drop under 50%

Quote:

-National has plunged nearly five points to below 50 per cent in the past week
-Support for Mr Goff in the preferred PM stakes has surged 6.2 points to 17.9
-NZ First is within striking distance of the crucial 5 per cent threshold, with just 1.3 points to get there
-The Greens are also on the rise and would have 16 MPs - seven more.

Furry Crew 12th November 2011 09:10

NZfirst
/facepalm


I blame you MMP!

Golden Teapot 12th November 2011 10:15

I very much doubt that any of these surveys are based upon a properly stratified sample of NZ. The saving grace however is that those least well represented are exactly those who are least likely to vote too.

ZoSo 12th November 2011 10:25

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4719/

September 20 - October 3, 2010 N 49.5 L 36.5
October 24 - November 6, 2011 N 53 L 26

Bit of a long bumpy slide on the old Roy.

chubby 12th November 2011 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furry Crew
ACT
/facepalm


I blame you MMP!

lets not forget the rest of that coin.

Ab 13th November 2011 21:23

Quote:

The weighted average of the five public polls released this week is:

National 52.6%, 67 seats
Labour 27.8%, 35 seats
Green 11.1%, 14 seats
NZ First 3,2%, 0 seats
Maori 1.5%, 3 seats (1 overhang)
ACT 1.1%, 1 seat
Mana 0.7%, 1 seat
United 0.4%, 1 seat (overhang)

Torka 13th November 2011 21:25

Do political polls in NZ have the same problem as American ones

That being they're almost entirely based on calling landlines, which people under 35 disproportionately don't have anymore and elderly people disproportionately still do

CCS 13th November 2011 21:26

Quote:

NZ First 3,2%, 0 seats
Maori 1.5%, 3 seats (1 overhang)
ACT 1.1%, 1 seat
Mana 0.7%, 1 seat
United 0.4%, 1 seat (overhang
Lol MMP! So proportional! Don't worry, Phil Goff is gonna fix things so that none of these parties can ever form a government with National. PROPORTIONAL!

Golden Teapot 13th November 2011 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torka
Do political polls in NZ have the same problem as American ones

Yep.

Rince 13th November 2011 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab
United 0.4%, 1 seat (overhang)

not if my electorate vote counts for anything....

Ab 17th November 2011 19:36

One News:

Labour hits 10 year low in poll

National: down 1 point to 53%
Labour: down 2 points to 26%
Greens: up 4 points to 13%
Winston First: down 0.7 points to 2.2% *
Act: up 0.1 points to 1.6%
Maori Party: 1.6%
Conservative party: 1.4%
Mana: 1.3%
United Future: 0.3%

Preferred PM
Key 53%
Goff 13%


* THE FUCK? That's thousands of people!

fixed_truth 17th November 2011 19:43

Labour hits ten year low in latest poll (TV One)
Quote:

Support for Labour has dipped to a ten year low with the Green Party reaping the benefit, according to the latest ONE News Colmar Brunton poll.

National's level of support seems to be barely damaged by the ongoing "tea pot tape" controversy this week.

It is down one point since last week's poll to 51%, while Labour has dropped back to 26%, its worst showing for a decade.

The Green Party appears to be hoovering up Labour's support and is polling at a record high of 13%
NZ First climb polls on back of teapot tapes (tv3)

Quote:

A 3 News Reid Reseach poll has Mr Peters on the move, up by 1.1 percent to 3.5 percent, and National down to its lowest level since it won the 2008 election.
National 50.2 (down 3.1)
Labour 27.4 (down 2.5)
Green 13 (up 2.8)
NZF 3.5 (up 1.1)
Act 1.8 (up 1.1)
edit: after Ab lol

Ab 17th November 2011 20:17

One News: "tea tape has had no impact on polls!"
3 News: "tea tape has impacted on polls!"

Public: "STFU about the fucking tea tape and tell us something about policy"

Evoke 17th November 2011 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS
There's no wtf there. Act voters need somewhere to go and they'll be trying out Conservative. Colin Craig comes across as much more reasonable than most Act members, hasn't had time yet to develop any bad stigma. He has some daft policies though.

I'd have thought ACT supporters would be going to Libertarianz since they're also "right wing" economically rather than socially. Conservative party seems more like Republicans (?) which I didn't think ACT were...

CCS 17th November 2011 20:33

Disappointed that Greens are polling well but that's to be expected as lefties defect from Labour. Very surprised that Conservative are polling as well as they are.* Right wingers who find National too centrist for them and disillusioned with Act are splitting the vote I guess... might they be capable of getting an MP?


* I should clarify that: I'm surprised they poll that well for a new party.

CCS 17th November 2011 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evoke
I'd have thought ACT supporters would be going to Libertarianz since they're also "right wing" economically rather than socially. Conservative party seems more like Republicans (?) which I didn't think ACT were...

Who has even heard of Libertarianz? Colin Craig is doing a much better job of getting publicity for his party and the polls show it.

cyc 17th November 2011 20:37

Don't forget that ACT has long lost its libertarian roots. They are really more about "fuck the crims" and social conservatism now and guess what the Conservatives stand for?

Who else wants to want the option of explicitly expressing disapproval of certain parties using their votes?

Evoke 17th November 2011 21:30

yeh ccs and cyc you're both right, libertarianz don't even have a candidate in my electorate and there's no way they'd ever get party seats... ::facepalm::

[WanG] Wandarah 17th November 2011 21:38

I suppose I am by nature, a 'libertarian' - at least in its idealogical form. If not its practical.

So, I went to the website.

Then I decided I would vote for anyone but those numpty cunts.

Ab 19th November 2011 18:53

Roy Morgan, released today

National (53%, unchanged)
Labour (24.5%, down 1.5%)
Green (13%, up 1%)
Winston First (3%, down 1.5%)
ACT (1.5%, up 0.5%)
United Future ( > 0.5%, unchanged)
Maori (3%, up 1%)
Mana (1%, unchanged)

I believe that's the first time Labour's sunk below the 25% mark.

chiquelet 20th November 2011 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS
Who has even heard of Libertarianz? Colin Craig is doing a much better job of getting publicity for his party and the polls show it.

Yep, there's been a party brochure in my local newspaper every week since campaigning began.

CCS 20th November 2011 00:17

Cool story bro.

chubby 20th November 2011 12:27

Quote:

A Horizon poll of 2874 people is projecting National on 46 seats in a 122-seat parliament, and Labour and the Greens on 50.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...efiant-Winston

lol.

Dan 20th November 2011 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by chubby




(edit for clarity: point = Winston bears striking resemblance to idgaf guy.)

cyc 20th November 2011 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by chubby

It takes a pretty deluded and pathetic shit to laugh at the thought of Winston Peters holding the balance of power. ANYTHING TO WIN AND ANYTHING FOR POWER!

Awesome. Welcome to the world of the extreme left.

Ab 20th November 2011 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by chubby

I know, it's fucking hilarious. Stuff running the results of a Horizon poll as if it were news is some funny shit. A self-selected Internet survey where you can answer as many times as you like. SOUNDS LEGIT.

CCS 20th November 2011 15:21

That fact that Winston is polling where he is right now (on legit polls) is scary. Don't people remember Winston holding the country to ransom in the past?

MrTTTT 20th November 2011 15:23

Go Winston!!

Torka 20th November 2011 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab
I know, it's fucking hilarious. Stuff running the results of a Horizon poll as if it were news is some funny shit. A self-selected Internet survey where you can answer as many times as you like. SOUNDS LEGIT.

As opposed to landline-based polling which skews the age of the sample significantly upwards and therefore rightwards

blynk 20th November 2011 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS
That fact that Winston is polling where he is right now (on legit polls) is scary. Don't people remember Winston holding the country to ransom in the past?

Or do people find a National party governing alone more scary.

blynk 20th November 2011 15:36

Oh, I should not, that there is no way in hell that I would vote for Peters.

CCS 20th November 2011 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by blynk
Or do people find a National party governing alone more scary.

You'd need to have rocks in your head to think that National governing alone would be worse than Winston holding the balance of power.

cyc 20th November 2011 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS
You'd need to have rocks in your head to think that National governing alone would be worse than Winston holding the balance of power.

Or to be the sort of stupid leftie that believes anything which leads to a "win" for their side is automatically a good thing.

fixed_truth 21st November 2011 10:20

Some interesting polling day projections based on linear regressions using all all campaign period polls:
Quote:

New Zealand First makes 5%?

Using the analysis above, we project that New Zealand First will get 3.8% of the vote. We can also project with 95% confidence that the party will get between 2.3% and 5.2% of the vote. Importantly, we project that there is only a 4% probability New Zealand First will get more than five percent of the vote.

National makes 50%?

We project that National will get an absolute majority of the vote, but a pretty small one (50.8%). Based on this analysis, we think there is a 74% chance that National will get over 50% of the vote.
Also Dimpost
Quote:

You gotta wonder why a party who is polling double their main opponents needs to run out this kind of clumsy race-baiting during the last week of the campaign. So I’m calling it: based on this statement, and the increasingly weird and hysterical posts on Kiwiblog, I predict that National’s internal polling has Winston Peters registering at >5%.

Saladin 23rd November 2011 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evoke
yeh ccs and cyc you're both right, libertarianz don't even have a candidate in my electorate and there's no way they'd ever get party seats... ::facepalm::

Got the conversative flyer yesterday, didn't even realise their candidate for my electorate was Gordon Copeland. So that's where the religious nut element went..


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