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Baal 8th July 2008 12:12

wtf

Hazmat 8th July 2008 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju
It's not available on prepay.

Um yeah it is.

Did you not read the bit about $979 and $1129 to purchase the 8GB and 16GB respectively without a plan?

How is that not pre-pay?

xin 8th July 2008 12:17

Is it just me or are these plans worse than the existing 3G data plans?

A Corpse 8th July 2008 12:17

It's a ponce-tax. Wanna prance around Ponsonby waving your faggy little iPhone around, it'll cost ya. :p

Cease 8th July 2008 12:19

http://vodafonenz.custhelp.com/cgi-b...p?p_faqid=6513

Jodi 8th July 2008 12:21

Well, there you go. Vodafone's craptastic iPhone plans means that the cheapest I could get an iPhone that matches my cellphone use model, is to buy it outright and use prepay. Thats, what, $950.

Haha, fuck that.

I love my touch. its nice.

Hmm, what I would actually do, is wait a year or so, pick up two not-working iPhones, and fix them up. hmm.

raab 8th July 2008 12:21

http://vodafonenz.custhelp.com/cgi-b...i=&p_topview=1

no visual voicemail either

Juju 8th July 2008 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat
Um yeah it is.

Did you not read the bit about $979 and $1129 to purchase the 8GB and 16GB respectively without a plan?

How is that not pre-pay?

So people can buy them to put on other contract plans.

Quote:

I am a Vodafone Prepay customers – can I get iPhone 3G on Prepay


Answer
No, iPhone will not be available on Prepay.

You need to have subscribed to either an iPhone plan or alternatively a standard On account plan (You Choose, talkZone, or Corporate) with a compatible Broadband plan for mobiles.

Hazmat 8th July 2008 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju
It's not available on prepay.

Apologies. You're quite correct.
Wow Vodafone have their heads up their asses.

After this little fiasco,it's become quite clear that Vodafone really don't give a fuck about anything but the almighty dollar.

For the first time in >10 years for me, Telecom are actually looking like the lesser of 2 evils.

OoKiE 8th July 2008 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Corpse
It's a ponce-tax. Wanna prance around Ponsonby waving your faggy little iPhone around, it'll cost ya. :p

_b

Akane 8th July 2008 12:40

I see that you can buy the iphone with no plans but it says you have to be on a "suitable" plan.

What's stopping you from buying one and just putting your prepay card in it? SIM block?

Juju 8th July 2008 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akane
SIM block?

Bingo.

Hazmat 8th July 2008 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju
Simlock...Bingo.

Which will be hax0red within a month of release.
Took what, a few weeks for the iPhone 1.0? I'd expect less for the 3G iPhone, given they've had a year to come to terms with similar hardware / firmware.

mr selfdestruct 8th July 2008 13:04

Can't text and walk properly

Frouse 8th July 2008 13:20

But since you have to buy the standalone iPhone in person at a store, they will make sure you have a plan for it :P

Haydos 8th July 2008 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat
For what exactly?
Serious question.

If it wasn't available on pre-pay, maybe. Customers have a choice here.
It's just the majority will be now making the choice to tell Vodafone to go jump.

Last time I checked, it wasn't illegal to import electronics, therefore attempting to lock out phones (as they've said they would) that are purchased overseas due to overseas vendors knowing how to set prices correctly is a breach, no?

Phantom 8th July 2008 13:21

I've gone from



to


BadNova 8th July 2008 13:24

If you buy this, you are part of the problem.

raab 8th July 2008 13:27

http://digg.com/apple/Online_petitio..._iPhone_prices

Juju 8th July 2008 13:30

The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to.
If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans.

Not defending Vodafone one bit - it sucks that we are pretty much the most expensive country in the world for everything cellular - but I'm not really that surprised at the pricing. Makes good business sense.

nippun 8th July 2008 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju
The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to.
If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans.

So, folks who get the N95 (On Account) pay the same as the iphone over 2 years ? Answered that myself - i.e. if you buy the phone outright and then go one of the on account plans. Hmmmm....

I suppose, get the phone outright and then hax0r it to use it on pre-pay.

Hazmat 8th July 2008 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju
The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to.
If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans.

Not defending Vodafone one bit - it sucks that we are pretty much the most expensive country in the world for everything cellular - but I'm not really that surprised at the pricing. Makes good business sense.

The iPhone is the *only* phone Vodafone sell that is not available without being tied to a plan (I may be wrong but even Blackberries can be purchased outright). That's the reason people are up in arms over it.

Dusty 8th July 2008 14:07

1gb 24month plan - $250 a month. LOL!

nostrom0 8th July 2008 14:09

Honesty, for 6 grand over two years I’d be expecting a free iphone or two.

Dusty 8th July 2008 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostrom0
Honesty, for 6 grand over two years I’d be expecting a free iphone or two.

Or shares in Vodafone.

Juju 8th July 2008 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat
The iPhone is the *only* phone Vodafone sell that is not available without being tied to a plan (I may be wrong but even Blackberries can be purchased outright). That's the reason people are up in arms over it.


Fair enough, sure. It would be interesting to see that if people used it on prepay - how much they would wind up paying for all the data/voice/txt's used over the 24 month period.

Hazmat 8th July 2008 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju
Fair enough, sure. It would be interesting to see that if people used it on prepay - how much they would wind up paying for all the data/voice/txt's used over the 24 month period.

I planned on using...0 data (use 802.11 at home) and sticking with my current calling / text package. Bollocks to adding another $30 (for a LOL 250MB) pack for data I won't use.

Ashley 8th July 2008 15:20

I'm getting the 2GB data plan to start with, but I honestly don't think I'll be using that much. There are SO many open wireless networks around downtown that I can just hop.

So after maybe a months usage I can drop my plan down to the $60 one.

Griven 8th July 2008 15:52

Well after considering getting one i can now put those thoughts well and truly out of my head thanks to these plans.

Spidey 8th July 2008 15:56

HTC Touch Diamond looks like a good replacement.

Rince 8th July 2008 16:06

iPhone plans 'not expensive' in NZ



... when compared to other NZ mobile plans...... LOL. Nice qualifier there.

Genesis 8th July 2008 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty
1gb 24month plan - $250 a month. LOL!

How and why are the 2 questions that come to mind.

Vodafone, price gouging in NZ since forever. That price is so unjustifiable, it's crazy.

Saladin 8th July 2008 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat
I planned on using...0 data (use 802.11 at home) and sticking with my current calling / text package. Bollocks to adding another $30 (for a LOL 250MB) pack for data I won't use.

Can't you just get a friend that's on a YouChoose plan to buy the phone, say it's for the them, then jailbreak it to run on your pre-pay sim? Or is the issue that people want to use data on prepay?

p01s0n 8th July 2008 16:16

you could do that, but it would lose its warranty, I guess.

I'll be very interested to see if vodafone backtracks on these prices within the next month. Like I read somewhere else, they had the potential to really shake the nz mobile scene up - imagine if you could get the 8gig for $199nz on the iphone 1gig plan for only $80/month. Telecom has nothing at all that could compete with that.

Instead they really fucked themselves over and just managed to reinstate their image of money hungry jackasses.

Remember, as well as paying $80/month for 250mb on a device that is designed for high data usage, you also get the bonus of vodafones world class service and support!

crocos 8th July 2008 16:20

$250/month for:
1GB data
600 txt
600 voice minutes

That a fuckload of time spent talking on the phone!

p01s0n 8th July 2008 16:28

hmmm yes..this device has a prime focus on bringing mobile internet accessibility to the masses in a usable format. Not to mention strong emphasis on OTA services such as maps/directions, mobile e-mail etc etc.

I know! lets give it a shitload of voice allocation!

Everything about these plans is retarded.

gandalf 8th July 2008 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos
$250/month for:
1GB data
600 txt
600 voice minutes

That a fuckload of time spent talking on the phone!

Ballocks. My wife does that in a week. :D

Hazmat 8th July 2008 16:45

Just spoke to a Voda rep in store.
The only way you will be able to use the Vodafone network for data is if you have a data plan.
No casual data usage at *all* IE: you can't have the $1 a day for your first 10MB. You *must* have a data plan. They're locking this via APNs in the firmware (love the way he tried to blame Apple's conditions for this one...fucking liar)

That's gonna screw pretty much any overseas iPhone owners from using it as an internet device here. Also travelling overseas. No Data roaming whatsoever.
So even if you manage to get one on prepay from Optus or whoever, you're screwed.

802.11 will work as advertised.

Those $1200 1st gen iPhones at parallel imported are actually looking like a steal now.

p01s0n 8th July 2008 16:50

cafenet could potentially make a killing off this whole pricing fiasco.

Also I think I read on geekzone that VoIP over the data connection will be a blocked service.

Waldo 8th July 2008 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandalf
Ballocks. My wife does that in a week. :D

you need to put something in her mouth


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