The New Zealand flag
Time for a new one? If so, what should it look like?
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Poll it up, yo.
I reckon we need a change. The current one doesn't represent us adequately and as a side annoyance is too similar to Australia's. |
Yeah time for a new one. Preferably one that has some component that is unmistakeably Kiwi.
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I'm all for a change to something more kiwi.
What reasons are people against changing? |
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I'd like to see a change to something more Kiwi. I like the thought of a silver fern, but I don't think a plain black background - "sable a fern argent" - would work as a national flag.
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Maybe.
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It doesn't seem to me like there is any point in changing the flag if there is not a significant change in the country. If we ditched the Queen and became a republic, then it would make sense to change the flag to lose the bullshit Union Jack etc.
A new flag by itself serves no purpose. Who cares what our flag looks like? What is the function of a flag in today's world? I don't think it's useful to waste man-hours/money/resources changing the design simply for the sake of changing the design. It's not a sports team uniform. There is already the Tino Rangitiratanga flag for people who can't stand the Queen. Use that one if you want to make a statement. |
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The traditionalist argument doesn't seem to hold up though. If the people of NZ want a change it should change. As long as there's a silver fern and no union jack then I'll probably be ok with it. Here's a post from Tim Watkin basically saying that this flag distraction may backfire as it will motivate more of the oldies to vote and this will help Winston. http://www.pundit.co.nz/content/the-...time-and-place |
I have no problem with the idea of changing the flag - though it would be nice if the change coincided with some sigificant changes within NZ (obviously not going to happen though).
On the other hand I am quite opposed to the use of the silver fern - but not for the bat-shit-crazy reasons presented by the RSA (that people would confuse it with a white feather - like a white feather has some universal meaning). I guess my issue with the silver fern is that it is, at least to me, a corporate logo now. Various versions of it have been trademarked over the years and it's used by both NZ and overseas based companies. Sure it's been used by a number of our sporting teams but many of those (such as Team NZ <retch>) are run as corporate organisations anyway and represent various brands as much as they do NZ (All Blacks, Team NZ). I quite like the idea of using a Koru and would love any change in the flag to at least in someway have a connection with Maori, even if it's just using the artistic style seen in a lot of Maori art. Pixie [oh and John Ansell] |
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But meh, if you must change it. Slap a fucking koru on there or something -> Some maori shit, some white fullah bs, some fucking stars for location, chuuur. |
Unless were no longer going to be part of commonwealth I say nay, even if we did I wouldn't want it to change tbh.
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National flags are a useless waste of time - how about we just abandon the idea of a flag altogether?
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People put so much emphasis on a piece of fabric that is made in China but someone earning much less than minimum wage.
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Pixie |
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I dunno, maybe we could reflect the British aspect by retaining the red, white and blue colouring in whatever flag we come up with. I don't see the need to introduce any other colours. I'm quite fond of the Southern Cross as it is currently depicted and would want to retain that no matter what. It's not the only flag with the Cross, but it's the only one with red stars with a white outline and I think it looks cool. |
If I ever get lost, it will show me the way home.
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tbh I'd prefer if we had the pot instead of the southern cross :D
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Every time this comes up all I really think of is "those Canadian guys did a bang up job with theirs, why can't we fucking pull this off, eh?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Canada |
I dunno, I just dont think a maple leaf is going to work for us
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lolz
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Or just no flag? Flag Flag Flag
No to flags. |
^Yer dreamin
Here's another proposed flag: |
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That flag sucks.
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Just so long as our new flag isn't the All Blacks logo, that's just a plain silly idea.
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Goatse flag
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i was thinking along the lines of a kiwi shaped fern, so google imaged it n found:
http://magigrapix.deviantart.com/art...-S-C-251984868 but it does look like the kiwi is dead the kiwi would be the most recognised of our icons overseas |
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This one for me. Has the colours of the Union Jack, the Southern Cross, and the blue of the Pacific.
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Another stupid thing we need to update is the national anthem.
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