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Kryten 9th August 2016 16:09

My house is only a few hundred metres from the nearest cabinet, but because of the way this area was subdivided, my actual cabinet is about 2km away in the other direction because I don't know why (my part is newer, as well).

Broadspectrum guy was happy to try it out and VDSL did sync, but it was slower than my ADSL, so we reverted.

Worth double checking that they even know which cabinet you're on.

pxpx 9th August 2016 16:12

^ Interesting. I had a chorus guy come out to fix a fault, I said I was getting VDSL installed shortly, he didn't believe me because according to him I was well over 1km from the exchange, so perhaps he had no idea either.

Different chorus guy coming over tomorrow to set it up - going to be very interesting to see what results are.

pxpx 10th August 2016 11:51

Success! Turns out I'd use the wrong kind of line to go from the master filter to the modem, so re-wired that using Cat5. That corrected the noise issue. Also found out that exchanges are having software updates applied to boost the range of VDSL out to 1.5km (or maybe it was 1.2), which is why more people are able to get it.

In any case I've gone from

13.1 down / 0.87 up / SNR 5.0dB -6.5

to

24.1 down / 2.5 up / SNR of 9.3

Cyberbob 10th August 2016 12:15

Who installs master filters? I presume that's a chargable job..

pxpx 10th August 2016 12:41

I did it myself but have heard that it's part of the install for VDSL. If you are just getting it done "because", then yea I imagine it'd be charged for.

DrTiTus 10th August 2016 13:57

I have VDSL without a master filter (that I am aware of) - I just use a standard ADSL splitter. Although I only have a single phone jack in my entire house, and the cabinet is across the road.
Code:

                    Receive Direction        Send Direction
Max. DSLAM throughput        kbit/s        70000        30000
Attainable throughput        kbit/s        94309        29824
Current throughput        kbit/s        70000        29771
                       
Signal-to-noise ratio        dB        19        12
Line attenuation        dB        8        10


MadMax 10th August 2016 14:18

So long as you have a passive filter you'd be fine. They are only concerned with low frequencies (<4khz)- it blocks anything but low frequencies from your crusty POTS from entering the phone line on which your modem sits.

Jodi 10th August 2016 16:39

If you have VDSL but not a master splitter then you're wasting your time. So much crap can come from internal wiring. Even if you have no phones connected the internal wiring can still screw shit up.

Only exception is if your demark point only has one set of wires that go straight to your VDSL modem and nowhere else.

Cyberbob 10th August 2016 21:58

I have zero use for any wiring or outlets that aren't associated with my modem, so my plan is to disconnect all internal wiring at the physical splitting point of the internal wiring, other than the one going straight to the VDSL related outlet.

Image of existing wiring


That'l hopefully eliminate any internal wiring noise due to so much wiring going to redundant outlets (5 in total), and AFAIK, won't need a master splitter.

MadMax 10th August 2016 22:16

for how far does it run in proximity to the TPS?

pxpx 11th August 2016 08:45

That should do the trick bob..

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8357
It’s a common myth that having a naked xDSL connection (a xDSL connection without a phone) removes the need to use any filters. This is incorrect. While plug in filters are not needed as there is no need to split voice and xDSL signals, a naked xDSL service will still continue to be impacted by premises wiring issues that can only be eliminated by the installation of a master filter or disconnecting all other internal wiring so that only a single jack point remains connected for the xDSL modem.


Cyberbob 11th August 2016 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax
for how far does it run in proximity to the TPS?

About 15m from what I can tell. I can choose an outlet that's only a few meters away, but then it becomes a wifi signal issue :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxpx
That should do the trick bob..

yea thanks for that. I'm counting on the "disconnecting all other internal wiring so that only a single jack point remains connected for the xDSL modem." bit.

[BT]MikeMan 19th October 2016 20:53

I will just leave this here.


Nothing 20th October 2016 20:05

Oh. We're playing this game:

FireStorm 24th October 2016 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nothing
Oh. We're playing this game:

His upload is a tad faster tho.

[BT]MikeMan 25th October 2016 07:01

Its supposed to be Gigabit but I think something in my home network is bottlenecking.

Would track it down but we move into our new place in Jan and that will have Cat6 all the way through so will fix it then.

Nothing 26th October 2016 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireStorm
His upload is a tad faster tho.

Yeah, I think our connections are probably meant to be the same speeds. I don't know why I don't get the full gigabit in the speedtest, and I'm supposed to have a 500Mbps upload connection. Never managed to get that much out of a speedtest. I have seen it get as much as about 380Mbps though. The download did get up over 900 in one test.

Nothing 26th October 2016 15:15


[BT]MikeMan 8th November 2016 14:55

Fixed the internal issues.


spigalau 8th November 2016 18:26

^ why's the ping so high ?


Ab 8th November 2016 20:15

sweet jesus

crocos 9th November 2016 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab
sweet jesus

Lol, Aussie :p

Charismo' 11th November 2016 11:08

so maybe you should do your speedtests to "outside of New Zealand" instead?

spigalau 11th November 2016 21:56

Auddie, NSW


Auddie, VIC


Auddie, WA


USA, LAX

[BT]MikeMan 12th November 2016 23:41

MyRepublic, Gamer 1000/500 Unlimited, Palmerston North (Tested at 10.30pm on Saturday)

Palmy to Auckland (WorldNet)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/5792127953.png

Palmy to Sydney (Internode)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/5792125883.png

Palmy to LA(Phyber Comms)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/5792135890.png

spigalau 21st December 2016 21:57



3.8Gb patch.. sure no worries...

Cinclant 22nd December 2016 09:38

Am with Spark on Max fibre

Get 940/470 to the Telstra speednet site in Sydney.

creamcheese 7th March 2017 07:25

Just got Google Fiber through Webpass


pxpx 13th March 2017 15:08

Just got my fibre up, 100/20, will see how it goes before upgrading to 950/500.

[BT]MikeMan 15th March 2017 01:20


Ab 15th March 2017 02:53

you guys are killing me :(

pxpx 15th March 2017 09:41

soz Ab, feelsbadman :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by [BT]MikeMan

Pure Ultra?

[BT]MikeMan 17th March 2017 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxpx
soz Ab, feelsbadman :(



Pure Ultra?

I signed up for UFB- Gamer - 200/100

Got speed bumped to 1000/500 in Octoberish I think.

Then had nearly 3 months without due to moving house. :(

Cyberbob 17th March 2017 20:33

Anyone using Trustpower as an ISP? Keen for thoughts.

crocos 17th March 2017 20:52

OK. Not UNimpressed, but not impressed either. Just another ISP, certainly not even remotely as terrible as others have posted (in my experience).

I recommend getting signed up for the network outages notifications, but I'd say the same for any ISP - or have something that'll monitor http://status.trustpower.co.nz

The Edge 17th March 2017 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberbob
Anyone using Trustpower as an ISP? Keen for thoughts.

I wouldn't.

Cyberbob 18th March 2017 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Edge
I wouldn't.

Any reason why? I'm with 2 Degree's (ex-Snap) and I think I'm paying Too Much™ at $95pm on open term unlimited VDSL (no fibre). Looking at alternatives, and am tempted by their free Samsung TV offer.

The Edge 18th March 2017 19:43

My aunt and uncle were with them. Slow in the evenings - although YMMV - and their penalties for breaking the 2 year contract (even if you're unhappy with the service) are quite high.

crocos 18th March 2017 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Edge
My aunt and uncle were with them. Slow in the evenings - although YMMV - and their penalties for breaking the 2 year contract (even if you're unhappy with the service) are quite high.

Yep, that's the only reason I can think of to not go with them - the penalties are a little (not a lot) higher than average for early termination of contracts. Frankly the $55/month for one year, $88/month for 2nd year (UFB is due here for then) is definitely a hefty reduction over what TeleSparklecom had offered, so even if the performance is a little lower, it's still a better deal.

Also I'm nobodies idea of a twitch gamer, so latency is only an issue for the most egregious of scenarios. Hell, in my teens and 20's I wasn't a twitch gamer - I'm quite notably worse now (as Rince and Deth can both attest).

The Edge 19th March 2017 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos
Yep, that's the only reason I can think of to not go with them - the penalties are a little (not a lot) higher than average for early termination of contracts. Frankly the $55/month for one year, $88/month for 2nd year (UFB is due here for then) is definitely a hefty reduction over what TeleSparklecom had offered, so even if the performance is a little lower, it's still a better deal.

Also I'm nobodies idea of a twitch gamer, so latency is only an issue for the most egregious of scenarios. Hell, in my teens and 20's I wasn't a twitch gamer - I'm quite notably worse now (as Rince and Deth can both attest).

As an aside, they were fined last year for not clearly outlining the type of charges crocos refers to here:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11714866


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