Election Day 2020
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What stream(s) are people going to be following for the results?
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Well, I'm watching the RNZ stream, seems aight. Looking very good for Labour, very bad for National. No mention of referendum results yet.
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Jesus what a massacre. Also Auckland central
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Very exciting. Brownlee getting reamed is lovely. Nick Smith too.
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I really hope the Maori Party manage to get a seat. They're still just in reach with a couple of seats.
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So so happy that Winston First looks toast. I gave ACT my party vote this time around, and it looks like a lot of other people did too. On track for 10 seats right now. I too am hoping that the Maori Party gets a seat, Rawiri Waititi taking Waiariki would be ace... but it's not looking likely. National's getting thumped. Nice work Matthew Hooton. |
Waiariki, 38%/13k counted, ~120 votes behind Labour.
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Greens are obviously thrilled. Wonder what kind of deal they'll have with Labour. Labour won't want them in opposition. And just outright owe the Greens for their support in the past term.
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BTW: yes and yes on the referenda.
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Waiariki very close!
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Pretty historic result.
Our non-politically interested, ms 21 was waiting outside for the polling station to open this morning. I wonder if the "not going to descend to the political point scoring of the past" new way, is something that gets the young people to stop thinking "they're both the same" and actually bother to vote. Will be interesting to see the stats. |
Seems like Labour able to govern alone. Happy that we're keeping Jacinda. Happy Winston First is out. Bit bummed out that Labour doesn't need the Greens.
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jeez I think Waititi is going to take waiariki!
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Looking very good! I guess we'll have to see what the special votes bring.
The negotiations between Labour and Green will be very interesting. Lots of considerations. I doubt Green will opt for opposition, but they'll be looking to keep themselves distinguished from Labour, avoid being a patsy. |
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Bye bye Winston. |
My thoughts on the referendums
Just like my socket set in the garage, many of which I will never use.
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Just like the No-Homo reform bill. Not making it compulsory. |
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The cannabis bill, I wasn't so sure of, but considering how far the left went, its actually possible. |
On newstalk zb heaps of the oldies are saying they saw the writing on the wall for National & so voted Labour to keep the Greens out.
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Hmmm - how did that work out for them...
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Honestly, I think a wealth tax would be a good thing. I just think that the Greens have been discussing a scary-low threshhold. A much better threshhold would be something like 3 - 5 million.
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Thomas Pikkety wrote a dry but good book about capital and tax. Recommend++
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A vote for ACT is a vote for invasion by feral bears. |
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I heard a good current theory by the political pundits the other day, which is a bit sad.
The likely outcome is that Labour will solidify themselves as centre. People who are left have a home in the Greens, and it means that National will have a harder time getting the centre voters. Which means we won't get a lot of the things that Labour may have done last term but had NZF stopping them. It makes sense, National started doing that with Key. They moved to the centre which meant Labour had to push left. |
Jacinda's instincts seem to be those of a moderate centrist leader. Personally I find it hard to tell her apart from John Key policy-wise.
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The difference will be in the practice. Where pressure is applied, where it isn't.
National claimed a mandate even when they weren't given one, and were a bunch of bullying cunts, which had consequences beyond any specific policy. Labour have real a mandate, I don't expect the same from them. The trick is for the Greens to find a way to position themselves in the way that gives themselves the most leverage to pursue their agenda. They're certainly in a much better position to do that than ACT. |
hey Ab, didn't you have your tongue up key's ass not too long ago?? Pick a fkn lane.
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End of Life Choice Referendum - 65.2% Yes, 33.8% No
Yay Cannabis Referendum - 46.1% Yes, 53.1% No Fuck this country |
Seems like a good enough result to initiate reform. I expect that's what we'll see.
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So I hope the 1.2m that voted no to the cannabis referendum are willing to have greater prohibitions on Alcohol.
Maybe we need the laws to change that mean it is now a crime and you can be arrested if you are carrying more than a 6 pack of beer or 1 bottle of wine. And definitely limit the number places that you can consume alcohol. [edit for bad editing and grammar] |
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It is only 170k votes different. But I doubt the specials would be able to win by over 85k. |
What a wasted opportunity.
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What's super annoying is if they had never done the stupid referendum they could probably pass an even more liberal reform bill thanks to the Labour majority plus strong results from the Greens and ACT.
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