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Ajax 22nd February 2022 09:23

Putin just addressed his nation and put forward a long, rambling casus belli. Looks like it might be about to kick off fairly soon.

crocos 22nd February 2022 12:15

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Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 2019685)
Putin just addressed his nation and put forward a long, rambling casus belli. Looks like it might be about to kick off fairly soon.

Already has - bussing troops into Donbas
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/st...77460944203777

DrTiTus 22nd February 2022 14:29

Spoke to my Ukraine friends, they are none the wiser, and life is normal for the citizens, at least an hour ago in Kyiv. They have not been issued any warnings or given any instructions. The Russian "threat" is a constant for them - for us we're hearing about it in the media so we think it's new. They tell me it's just media hype, and not to worry about them.

If they're not worried, I'm not worried.

Ajax 22nd February 2022 15:33

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Originally Posted by DrTiTus (Post 2019698)

If they're not worried, I'm not worried.


Zelensky just addressed the nation live at 2am in the morning to say "we are not afraid" but probably nothing *shrug*

Lightspeed 22nd February 2022 15:43

It could be a ploy just to get fuel prices up. Manoeuvring armies use a lot of gas.

DrTiTus 22nd February 2022 22:31

And it's over, two territories taken from Ukraine, if I understand correctly. Gosh, what a brutal man. A Western war involves several years, trillions of dollars, and ends in failure and withdrawal.

Ajax 23rd February 2022 08:54

Er, it's probably not over yet. Putin may use 'aggression' against Russian forces in the Donbas as justification for an offensive. Same playbook was used in Georgia in 2008.

Ajax 23rd February 2022 13:39


Cyberbob 23rd February 2022 14:18

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Originally Posted by DrTiTus (Post 2019708)
And it's over, two territories taken from Ukraine, if I understand correctly. Gosh, what a brutal man. A Western war involves several years, trillions of dollars, and ends in failure and withdrawal.

That's the Putin playbook. Two territories this week is nothing. Two next week will be nothing as well. Two the week after won't be much either.

DrTiTus 23rd February 2022 14:21

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Ajax's picture
I don't really understand. There are things called "timezones", and places have different dates at the same point in the now, so I often tell people overseas I'm living "in the future". If I've missed the point, forgive me. I'm not following the details of the politics, just interested in people I know not getting slaughtered in a war. For example, I have no idea who LPR are, or what this statement means other than something about a date.

fixed_truth 23rd February 2022 14:28

^writing a date on a bit of paper doesn't prove that's the actual date

DrTiTus 23rd February 2022 15:28

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Originally Posted by Ukrainian
so my city turned out to be one of the first if shelling begins
Now in Donetsk they opened fire again. planes and troops of ukraine move to defend
there is also a mobilization of the population


Ab 23rd February 2022 19:02

If only the words "Biden" and "Ukraine" together didn't elicit groans and eyerolls and I don't give a fuck any mores. Maybe the US response would be a bit more... authoritative.

Ab 23rd February 2022 23:19

Huge if true

https://www.metromag.co.nz/society/putin-and-me

StN 24th February 2022 05:25

I'd seen the pics before after the sinking - but they always claimed it was a look alike.

Ajax 24th February 2022 15:35

Putin was just live on Russian TV at 5:45am Moscow time. Said Russia doesn't feel secure. "I have declared a special military operation: the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine". He's asking the Ukraine military to surrender. A declaration of war, essentially.

Ajax 24th February 2022 15:37

Not clear whether he just means the Donbas region or wider Ukraine.

Ab 24th February 2022 15:40

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Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 2019733)
Putin was just live on Russian TV at 5:45am Moscow time. Said Russia doesn't feel secure. "I have declared a special military operation: the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine".

Hates Nazis, wants a safe space. What a fucking snowflake.

All jesting aside, holy shit. I am so so glad that Ukraine gave up all its Soviet nukes.

Ajax 24th February 2022 16:25

Cruise and ballistic missiles now hitting command-and-control centres in Kiev.

Ab 24th February 2022 16:52

This is just fucking horrible.

Ab 24th February 2022 16:56

From Axios’s summary of Putin’s speech:

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He argued in an hour-long speech on Monday that Ukraine has no right to exist as an independent country.
Oh fuck.

Ajax 24th February 2022 17:02

Hard to confirm but reports of a Russian landing operation in Odessa

Ajax 24th February 2022 17:10


Cyberbob 24th February 2022 19:28

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Originally Posted by Ab (Post 2019735)
I am so so glad that Ukraine gave up all its Soviet nukes.

MAD works as a deterrent, but it also depends on dealing with rational actors.

Ab 24th February 2022 19:36

Which is why I am so so glad.

Lightspeed 24th February 2022 20:08

It will be interesting to see how long China can keep walking the tightrope in this situation. It might depend on how stinging sanctions against Russia really are.

DrTiTus 24th February 2022 21:11

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Originally Posted by Ukrainian
panic in people and a desire to buy everything possible. [pic of long supermarket queues]
two Ukrainian solders have just been shot in front of my eyes.
from 5 in the morning they were just rockets, but when I went to the store, tanks and cars drove in that direction with Ukrainian solders who are now being shot at a kilometer from me. it's very close to me, I'm on the edge of Kharkov, where it's all happening now


Ajax 24th February 2022 21:22

War is hell.

sidbo 24th February 2022 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus (Post 2019708)
And it's over, two territories taken from Ukraine, if I understand correctly. Gosh, what a brutal man. A Western war involves several years, trillions of dollars, and ends in failure and withdrawal.

Seems there might be a little bit more to it then huh.

Cyberbob 24th February 2022 22:07

Reported attacks so far. Not just a few territories, and extremely close to NATO members.



Lightspeed 24th February 2022 22:11

So Russia is going to try and round up Ukrainian political leadership, charge them with being Nazis, lobotomise the state.

Ajax 24th February 2022 22:26

Putin wants to install a puppet government in the Ukraine, not let an actual democracy potentially ally with the West.

Ab 25th February 2022 23:18

Because internet I don’t think anything is true any more, but to go out with “Russian warship, go fuck yourself” is pretty damn metal.

_indigo1 26th February 2022 10:22

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed (Post 2019750)
So Russia is going to try and round up Ukrainian political leadership, charge them with being Nazis, lobotomise the state.

LOL, 'charge them'

Do you think you'll ever see Zelenskyy (or his family) alive again if/when the Russians find him?

Ajax 26th February 2022 11:08

The Nazi thing doesn't make a lot of sense. For a start, Zelenskyy is Jewish and had numerous family members killed in the Holocaust.

Ajax 26th February 2022 12:03

Sounds like things are not going entirely Russia's way so far. They've lost a lot of armour, aircraft and soldiers.

Lightspeed 26th February 2022 16:32

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Originally Posted by Ab (Post 2019770)
Because internet I don’t think anything is true any more, but to go out with “Russian warship, go fuck yourself” is pretty damn metal.

Al Jazeera reported it. The background chatter was pretty spooky. "I think this is it."

Lightspeed 27th February 2022 15:54

This is all quite fascinating:

"Invest in badass Zelensky"

StN 27th February 2022 19:12

When it kicked off I was "Isn't that the comedian guy who ended up getting voted in, in an even more funny way than Trump?".

What they didn't report back then was his excessive scrotal capacity.

Ab 27th February 2022 20:45

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...12365923618816


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