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Redneck 23rd August 2008 14:09

So basically, watch some Gordon Ramsay.

Haydos 23rd August 2008 14:11

No, Gordon Ramsay would more than likely serve an eye fillet in a Beef Wellington, drizzled with gravy and sided with greens.

Redneck 23rd August 2008 14:12

That's one way he might serve it, he also does exactly what you said.

Haydos 23rd August 2008 14:18

Doubtful, he never cooks with butter, nor does he season his meat with anything but salt. He uses all his seasoning in the sauce.

Redneck 23rd August 2008 14:21

Looks like you've got a lot of The F Word to watch

Redneck 23rd August 2008 14:31

Actually now that I think about it, we're both right - he does cook steak with butter, but not with herbs. :)

Hazmat 23rd August 2008 14:47

Light oil in the bottom of an extremely hot pan. Sear one side and cook for a further 15-20 seconds, then turn and place a small knob of butter on the cooked side.
Cook for a further 30 seconds or so (adjust times depending on the thickness of the cut and preferred "doneness"). Leave to rest on a cutting board or plate until no more juices are seeping from the bottom of the steak.

Straight from the F-Word a few weeks ago. I was quite surprised to see Gordon using butter for cooking too, which is why it stuck in my memory.

Mickey 23rd August 2008 14:57

He uses butter a lot. On his weekly show (not the F word), he was scrfeaming at someone to start again and there was a massive tub of butter she was scraping it out of.

Butter cooking is the best. Tastes so much nicer.

xor 23rd August 2008 15:44

Looks like a lot of foodies in here, maybe there should be a cooking forum or something?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Haydos 23rd August 2008 15:57

I never watch F Word, worthwhile? I've only seen his stuff on Hell Kitchen.

Hazmat 23rd August 2008 16:07

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Originally Posted by Haydos
I never watch F Word, worthwhile? I've only seen his stuff on Hell Kitchen.

It's very worthwhile. Hell's Kitchen is Gordon yelling.
F-Word is Gordon cooking.

Word 23rd August 2008 16:07

Hells kitchen doesn't show him cooking much. Just swearing and putting others down.

He puts rosemary with his steak while in the oven, but then it depends on the recipe.

Helious 23rd August 2008 18:26

The F Word fucking owns if you want to learn a thing or two about cooking.

StN 24th August 2008 09:16

I dropped into the paint shop yesterday, and a series of events nearly had me pissing myself. As I wandered in, the paint dude said "Hi" and asked if there was anything he could help with. He was a youngish chap, dressed all in black, with a black single breasted jacket on over black stovepipes, possibly winkle pickers, and long black hair. Not your normal Resene Colour consultant, but nice enough. So I picked my paint, and he mixed in the tonal variants I needed. Then he moved to the hand crank mixing thing, and that's when I nearly lost it. If his hair was blonde, and not black, it would have looked just like that scene from Rocky Horror, where Riff Raff is turning the red wheel thingy.

DrTiTus 24th August 2008 11:55

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Originally Posted by StN
it would have looked just like that scene from Rocky Horror, where Riff Raff is turning the red wheel thingy.

lol!

"Throw open the switches on the sonic oscillator!"

I used to love watching that movie as a kid - I never realised how bizarre it was.

Ajax 24th August 2008 12:42

I've got the flu, and this morning picked up some Sudafed from the chemist. Taking a look at the box, I see they've actually sold me Sudafed PE, which has phenylephedrine instead of pseudoephedrine. Phenyl is a poor cousin of pseudo, and recent studies suggest it doesn't work as a decongestant at all!

I realise this has come about because of NZ's meth problem, but it would be nice to have the option of buying medication that's not just snake oil. Anyone know if pseudo-based products are still available over the counter?

DrTiTus 24th August 2008 13:32

M0f0s are sissy with their need for flu medication

Who even gets sick?

Harrdddddenupau

crocos 24th August 2008 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus
Who even gets sick?

Me :(

CCS 24th August 2008 13:43

Does Codral still have the psuedo in it?

crocos 24th August 2008 13:54

Nyet: Not the OTC one anyway.

Draco T Bastard 24th August 2008 14:55

Quantum reverse engineering.

Baal 24th August 2008 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus
Who even gets sick?

People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.

crocos 24th August 2008 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baal
People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.

I've tried it twice: Got full-on flu almost immediately after both times, decided never making THAT mistake again.

Lightspeed 24th August 2008 15:27

Flu vaccination makes sense for oldies and very youngies I think, but for your average healthy person, it's seems pretty dumb. Then again, I am not sure what percentage of people are really that healthy.

Ajax 24th August 2008 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTiTus
Who even gets sick?

Internet Tough Guys certainly don't!

crocos 24th August 2008 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed
Flu vaccination makes sense for oldies and very youngies I think, but for your average healthy person, it's seems pretty dumb. Then again, I am not sure what percentage of people are really that healthy.

Heh - not me :D

Helious 24th August 2008 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baal
People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.

strange. 4 years running with flu jabs and I haven't had the flu in that time.

Baal 24th August 2008 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helious-
strange. 4 years running with flu jabs and I haven't had the flu in that time.

Yeah my above statement obviously has no real grounding (given the sheer amount of factors that may contribute to someone getting sick/not), maybe I'd give it a try if I got sick, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had flu/sickness, so if it isn't broke etc.

I'd say it's probably down to genetics (and possibly age becomg a factor later) more than anything else. My family in general is always disgustingly healthy.

Dan 24th August 2008 16:43

/facepalm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baal
People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.

Influenza immunization improves immunity against influenza viruses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza). It doesn't make any difference to other viruses or pathogens e.g. "colds" that people get.
Edit: Having said that people that get sick a lot are probably more likely to get the flu, either because they're coming in contact with more people likely to be infected (schools/kids in large numbers in close contact etc)


Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos
I've tried it twice: Got full-on flu almost immediately after both times, decided never making THAT mistake again.

You can't get the flu from the vaccine. Chances are you a) got a cold afterwards, called it "the flu", and attributed it to the vaccine, b) were unlucky and got infected by a strain that wasn't included in that years vaccine.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed
Flu vaccination makes sense for oldies and very youngies I think, but for your average healthy person, it's seems pretty dumb. Then again, I am not sure what percentage of people are really that healthy.

Chances are if you're exposed to the influenza virus, whether you're "healthy" or not, if you haven't got anti-bodies to that strain (i.e. had it before, or had a vaccination), you're going to get it. Flu =! cold. If you get a serious bout of the flu you'll see the point of the vaccine. Cold = runny nose, sore throat, can keep on doing stuff. Flu = fever, aching, exhaustion, can't do shit for 10 days.

crocos 24th August 2008 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
You can't get the flu from the vaccine. Chances are you a) got a cold afterwards, called it "the flu", and attributed it to the vaccine, b) were unlucky and got infected by a strain that wasn't included in that years vaccine.

More likely b) then as it was the aching/fever/exhausted/generally more of a useless cunt then normal. But given how soon after I started getting symptoms, I suspect that it will have had something to do with it - even if just weakening my system while the jab was integrating itself to get antibody production kicked off.

Interestingly though I haven't had those symptoms in the 5 years since I last had a flu jab... <shrug>

Golden Teapot 24th August 2008 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
You can't get the flu from the vaccine.

Of course. However, there are so many uneducatable people, that it's always possible to find countless individuals who will fight-to-the-death whilst claiming they got the flu from the vaccine.

Baal 24th August 2008 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
Influenza immunization improves immunity against influenza viruses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza). It doesn't make any difference to other viruses or pathogens e.g. "colds" that people get.

Ta for the link, I was totally unaware that some viruses are not other viruses. :rolleyes:

While you could construe my post above as associating flu jabs with getting sick I'm really more interested in why some people just don't seem to get sick often.

Your point about being around sick or sheer volumes of people (esp. kids) is a good one. That said I know people who work day in day out around all kinds of contagious illnesses and they don't seem to fall ill often if at all.

*shrug*

Draco T Bastard 24th August 2008 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
You can't get the flu from the vaccine.

http://www.wisegeek.com/how-does-a-vaccine-work.htm
Quote:

Originally Posted by article
In their altered states, vaccine pathogens are typically safe and unable to cause disease.

The operative word is typically, there is a small chance that by being injected with the vaccine you will actually get the full blown disease.

Ajax 24th August 2008 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco T Bastard

The operative word is typically, there is a small chance that by being injected with the vaccine you will actually get the full blown disease.

The injected form of the flu vaccine is inactivated (contains killed virus) and cannot possibly give you flu. Vaccines with attenuated (live) viruses may be a different story.

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/index...a-seasonal-faq

Draco T Bastard 24th August 2008 20:24

I didn't realise that we had become perfect recently.

Ajax 24th August 2008 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco T Bastard
I didn't realise that we had become perfect recently.

Careful, you're straying into crackpot territory.

Lightspeed 24th August 2008 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
Chances are if you're exposed to the influenza virus, whether you're "healthy" or not, if you haven't got anti-bodies to that strain (i.e. had it before, or had a vaccination), you're going to get it.

So why do I get sick less often than those I live/work with? I don't take any special precautions with hygiene.

I seem to get infected by the cold or flu much less than those around me.

Ab 24th August 2008 22:12

Little things make a huge difference - washing your hands before eating, for example.

Draco T Bastard 24th August 2008 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajax
Careful, you're straying into crackpot territory.

Just pointing out that there's a small chance that you can get the flue even from vaccines that have dead viruses in them. Viruses are notoriously hard to kill.

Delphinus 24th August 2008 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab
Little things make a huge difference - washing your hands before eating, for example.

What if you *dont* keep things super hygienic... therefore building up your immunity?


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