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DrTiTus 30th January 2024 16:42

They have asked for a reduction in spending, not a reduction in services.

While services are not free, an increase in spending does not correlate with improved service, so naturally a decrease in spending does not imply a degraded service.

You are assuming that every dollar assigned is spent wisely. Newsflash: it's not.

Lightspeed 30th January 2024 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab (Post 2028395)
I hate to sound like a godless communist, but I would wager that the wage bill of all those unnecessary public servants is a rounding error next to the revenue the state missed out on by not taxing capital gains on all those property sales.

Yeah, but those unnecessary public servants might inefficiently work to point this out. They might come up with clever "facts and figures" which might demonstrate how we're kneecapping ourselves by enriching landlords.

Which is completely unacceptable. Landlords need dignity.

No, we're better off cutting funding to for instance the Serious Fraud Office which returns $8 for every dollar spent. Those cheeky buggers that make it harder for a dishonest businessman to make bank.

xor 30th January 2024 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab (Post 2028395)
I hate to sound like a godless communist, but I would wager that the wage bill of all those unnecessary public servants is a rounding error next to the revenue the state missed out on by not taxing capital gains on all those property sales.

Agreed. Here, in the workers paradise of Queensland property buyers are required to pay stamp duty on any house they purchase. It means our rates are super low compared with Auckland, and the services provided by the state is a lot more than Auckland.

There's also some CGT which enables the govt to take a pretty big chunk of taxable revenue as well.

Lightspeed 31st January 2024 17:34

Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!

Government to roll back rules restricting pay-day lenders

DrTiTus 1st February 2024 02:01

Looks like children are back on the menu boys

Clearly this terrible crime is a result of colonization, trauma, and the Treaty.

Because personal responsibility doesn't exist, it has been established.

Ab 1st February 2024 11:32

Quote:


The defendant targeted the girl, babysitting her and other children while other adults were distracted with movement planning meetings


See, colonisation made this happen

Lightspeed 3rd February 2024 01:24

Laying the groundwork for the next national tragedy:

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...ting-fast-lane

Lightspeed 3rd February 2024 12:48

You have to wonder what's at stake for tobacco companies. How much money can they really make off New Zealanders?

Probably enough for some crazy underhanded shit.

Ab 5th February 2024 11:46

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/...948544/photo/1



Well, like… of course? Am I missing something?

Ab 5th February 2024 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed (Post 2028438)
You have to wonder what's at stake for tobacco companies. How much money can they really make off New Zealanders?

Fuck all with the tiny proportion of the country that is their target market:

Current smokers down from 18.4% in 2011/12 to 8.3% in 2022/23.

Youth smoking (15 to 17 year olds) down from 8.3% to 1.0%

Maori smoking rate down from 40.3% to 20.2%

Lightspeed 5th February 2024 13:02

I haven't noticed businesses ignoring money that's a "tiny proportion".

What do you reckon the dollar values are in that drop in smoking?

Lightspeed 5th February 2024 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab (Post 2028444)
Well, like… of course? Am I missing something?

Populism.

Ab 5th February 2024 14:14

Yeah but I suspect the pot-stirring is being done by the Herald here.

Lightspeed 5th February 2024 14:46

Well that's a given. But the reason why it's this approach is not to do with the NZH specifically.

I think it's more about interests that seek to accumulate wealth scraping the bottom of the barrel of what will keep us voting against our own interests for the sake of further concentrating wealth.

It's an ever more difficult job keeping people educated enough we're able to work sophisticated jobs, while also conning us out of more and more of the value we're producing each day.

fixed_truth 5th February 2024 16:48

Seymour's racism is bringing Maori together. Maybe he isn't a useless Maori after all.

fixed_truth 6th February 2024 08:31

Reflecting on Waitangi Day. Admitting we have a problem is a start

https://youtu.be/plPIzLXj8bE?si=0DEwUQumrtPgFj34

Lightspeed 6th February 2024 13:03

Andrew Judd is a legend. He discovered some uncomfortable truths and instead of getting defensive, instead of cooking up a narrative where the truths weren't true or weren't uncomfortable, he faced into them, allowed himself to be challenged and changed.

He'd probably still be mayor if he took the easy option.

Lightspeed 7th February 2024 20:21

Cultural reports are for those who can afford them:

Govt to axe funding for pre-sentence cultural reports

Thank goodness we've got this government to bring some sanity back to our legal system.

Cyberbob 7th February 2024 20:27

Govt to drop support for proposal to restrict bottom trawling in the South Pacific

Now they're just going down a list of anything Labour supported.

Lightspeed 7th February 2024 20:34

I still miss NZ scallops.

It's a good thing I don't eat seafood anymore, cause there's going to be a lot more to miss it seems.

Ab 8th February 2024 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberbob (Post 2028460)
Govt to drop support for proposal to restrict bottom trawling in the South Pacific

Now they're just going down a list of anything Labour supported.

Yeah, nah, not a fan. See this is what happens when NZ FUCKING FIRST gets in to government. Jesus christ, will voters never learn.

Cyberbob 8th February 2024 20:51

Govt to drop Auckland fuel tax.

Guess we'll fund our repairs and infrastructure projects through rates then.

blynk 10th February 2024 11:27

Crazy how the government can make Wayne Brown seem reasonable.

And S Brown seems to be talking the shit.
"There is no shortfall, because the projects haven't been committed to. But we are committed to the final section of the Eastern Corridor".

And also spouts on about how only 10m was used on these projects and the other 300m was spent on cycle ways and pedestrian crossings.
That's a load of number fudging bollocks.

Cyberbob 10th February 2024 13:11

But also, where the fuck is the pushback from the opposition? Greens and Labour have been pretty damn quiet in the media while the three headed dragon stays in the spotlight.

Lightspeed 10th February 2024 13:15

I wonder if it's a situation of giving them enough rope to hang themselves.

Lightspeed 14th February 2024 15:53

KiwiRail in talks to cancel contracts for new Interislander ferries

Quote:

KiwiRail has begun discussion to cancel its contract for an overseas firm to build it two new ferries.

Late last, year the government declined a request for additional funding for the project to buy two new ferries and upgrade two ports because of cost overruns.

KiwiRail says it cannot proceed without the government funding.
I'm sure a line-by-line analysis will provide all the infrastructure we need.

Lightspeed 18th February 2024 14:56

'State of the nation is fragile', Christopher Luxon says

Quote:

"The country is weak and vulnerable, a perfect opportunity to loot the vault" crowed Luxon off the back of his promise of $3 billion more wealth for landlords.

Ab 19th February 2024 01:44

Where is that quote from?

Lightspeed 19th February 2024 01:56

Judith Collins' face:


Lightspeed 21st February 2024 15:32

Government committed to coalition transport projects despite report showing they could cost double

Quote:

It estimated that 17 projects that National campaigned on could cost between $30.9 billion and $46.6 billion, according to the Herald, which would be up to $24 billion more than what National forecasted for the same projects.

These include the Cambridge to Piarere road, East-West Link, Second Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve Upgrade, as well as three public transport projects.
Yet we're canning the Cook Strait ferries.

It's almost like it's not so much spending public money that's problematic, it just needs to go to the right people?

Ab 1st March 2024 13:17

Luxon doesn't seem to grasp that he is a politician.

Quote:

PM Christopher Luxon claims $52k top-up to rent his own apartment

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon appears to have ignored his own orders to the public service to find savings up to 7.5 per cent from their budgets, quietly claiming an 11 per cent top up to his own $471,000 salary in the form of a $52,000 optional allowance.

The allowance is meant to pay for Luxon to find accommodation in Wellington. However, few prime ministers have claimed it - Luxon is the first in at least 34 years.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...CMFMEXZ5XKPEU/

Cyberbob 1st March 2024 14:22

An apartment he owns mortgage free, I might add.

Ab 1st March 2024 16:32

Nope, he still doesn't realise he's in politics

Quote:

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he is “entitled” to claim a $52,000 optional allowance to live in the Wellington apartment he owns
Right now his comms team are updating their resumes.

Ab 1st March 2024 16:36

https://twitter.com/nzlabour/status/1763391458458169509

totally self-inflicted

Lightspeed 1st March 2024 16:54

Grifter is grifting, what a surprise.

This will blow over, the government will continue to loot the vault and when challenged the response will be "we campaigned for this".

xor 1st March 2024 17:45

little fat piggies

Caesar 1st March 2024 18:02

Hey, leave the guy alone, he's only worth an estimated 21mill...:P
Our second richest National PM behind jonkey.

blynk 1st March 2024 18:27

Well, he changed his mind. Apparantly "he decided" to do it, and I am sure it had nothing to do with some PR company that he has working for him

But it must really GTG of people like him, where he wants to get every penny he can, for him to come out and have to back track.

Lightspeed 2nd March 2024 15:12

KiwiRail reports big hit to bottom line after cancellation of Interislander project

Quote:

KiwiRail has reported a large hit to its bottom line after the cancellation of the Interislander ferry and terminal project.

Its net deficit for the six months ended December was $407 million, largely thanks to $442m in costs relating to the project.

Lightspeed 4th March 2024 13:59

Brownlee bars student journalists from parliament press gallery

The government never promised transparency, so we've got nothing to complain about.


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