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Cyberbob 23rd August 2018 10:23

It's just so much easier to find like-minded people and build a collective.

To paraphrase an American comedian, if you go on Facebook to find people that have sex with goats that are on fire, you'll have to specify the type of goat.

[Malks] Pixie 23rd August 2018 17:36

Ain't got nothin' to do with free speech, has everything to do with the medium being the message.

Lightspeed 23rd August 2018 18:31

I probably don't really know what free speech is to be honest. It seems one of those US-centric ideas from a couple of hundred years ago that we're all supposed to have bought into.

I was thinking about the idea that if everyone is free to share their ideas and values, those that are without merit will be exposed and die, rather than festering in the dark while allowing what works to flourish. Or something.

I don't really understand if the medium is the message. Facebook is the message? Social media is the message?

Ab 23rd August 2018 18:33

outrage is the message.

Lightspeed 23rd August 2018 18:45

Makes sense.

So is this really about social media or the outrageous state of the world?

Because the outrage is real, right? People are genuinely struggling and facing difficulties not of their own making. Right?

Nich 25th August 2018 02:19

poverty of the soul
 
OK, But You Gotta Admit -- The WAY Mark Zuckerberg Hacked Into Those Email Accounts Was Pretty Cool
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/h....com&r=US&IR=T

In 8 short years, he's gone from "cool" hacker, to alien who overacts when drinking water.

Ab 25th August 2018 13:46

Facebook is cancer

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...facebook-hate/

DrTiTus 28th August 2018 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos (Post 2003891)
I'm working for NZX at the moment. Just not that NZX - instead it's the stock exchange. (Well... I can't imagine a porn mag wanting a power-price interchange ESB-based service...)

OK crocos, what did you do? :P

pxpx 28th August 2018 21:18

select * from nzx

Cyberbob 29th August 2018 09:42

Since the furniture company Drop Tables went public, the NZX's been in trouble.

Ab 29th August 2018 12:46

Ahahaha

MadMax 29th August 2018 21:21

social media? fuck YEAH

Dog gets stolen from SPCA:


Basic sleuthing finds the cowardly bozo mongrel thug:


Oh what's on said thug's facebook page?


Boom; posts under her lost puppy post:

Pepsi 30th August 2018 13:02

Thrown over the fence? Poor pup :(

CCS 30th August 2018 13:11

Nah, their bones are springy at that age :D

Ab 31st August 2018 01:03

Facebook is cancer

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techc...3/Cp1LUQIeavM/

pxpx 31st August 2018 10:05

Bit of a storm in a tech crunch innit?

Nich 31st August 2018 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxpx (Post 2004068)
Bit of a storm in a tech crunch innit?

Some people need to be slapped into wokeness, and facebook is the one to do the slapping. Anne Frank Center just wasn't virtue signalling enough for the most oppressed and ostracized of society. There is not a single post about blacks, the gender pay gap, whiteness = violence, or trans pronouns! Very disappointing.

CCS 31st August 2018 15:20

The Left hates the Jews. They'll never be woke enough to cease their anti-Semitism.

Lightspeed 31st August 2018 16:13

Quote:

a lawyer for Jones recently said the conspiracy theorist is merely playing a character when he speaks via his InfoWars channels. “He’s playing a character,” attorney Randall Wilhite said during a recent pretrial hearing. “He is a performance artist.”
Judge Rules Against Alex Jones and Infowars in Sandy Hook Lawsuit

Quote:

After Mr. Pozner succeeded in getting an Infowars video casting doubt on the shooting removed from YouTube, Mr. Jones showed his audience Mr. Pozner’s personal information and maps to addresses associated with his family, court documents say. Mr. Jones also falsely accused Ms. De La Rosa of participating in a faked interview with Anderson Cooper of CNN after the shooting, according to court documents.

Subsequent death threats and harassment have forced the Pozner family to move seven times. They currently live in hiding.

Ab 25th September 2018 13:13

Not entirely sure that this is the mos appropriate thread, but it’s close because YouTube sucks. Anyway, read. (Trigger warning: Ezra Klein)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...right-peterson

pxpx 25th September 2018 15:02

YouTube is amazing, except when it comes to political crap.

Ab 25th September 2018 15:28

Youtube monetises extremism, no matter the subject.

Quote:

The digital scholar Zeynep Tufekci has written about YouTube’s role as an engine of radicalization. She retells watching Donald Trump videos and then being pointed toward “white supremacist rants, Holocaust denials and other disturbing content.” Watching Hillary Clinton rallies led her to “arguments about the existence of secret government agencies and allegations that the United States government was behind the attacks of Sept. 11.” Even nonpolitical topics followed the pattern: “Videos about vegetarianism led to videos about veganism. Videos about jogging led to videos about running ultramarathons.”
Quote:

It seems as if you are never “hard core” enough for YouTube’s recommendation algorithm. It promotes, recommends and disseminates videos in a manner that appears to constantly up the stakes.

pxpx 25th September 2018 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab (Post 2004398)
Youtube monetises extremism, no matter the subject.

Yes 100% agree that extremist DIY Carpentry and Maker videos are going to be the end of us. :p But yeah I get where you're going.

StN 25th September 2018 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxpx (Post 2004399)
Yes 100% agree that extremist DIY Carpentry and Maker videos are going to be the end of us. :p But yeah I get where you're going.

You speak the truth. It started when I though Mr Zametti was a kiwi...

Nich 25th September 2018 17:36

Yep, I never thought of it that way, but now that I think about it, they're spot on with the extremism observation.

My searches for solar-powered aquaponics systems has lead to "How to build a fallout shelter" ... but after all those Hillary videos I also watched it didn't seem too unreasonable a video suggestion.

pxpx 26th September 2018 08:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by StN (Post 2004400)
You speak the truth. It started when I though Mr Zametti was a kiwi...

lol! also guilty

Ab 26th September 2018 12:25

Instagram founders bail out

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/t...rs-resign.html

Instagram IS Facebook.

Ab 29th September 2018 01:00

Which is cancer

https://apple.news/AA81J37IERAiLHs9sqUaZtg

Ab 30th September 2018 12:45

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/t...ta-breach.html

John Gruber:

Quote:

Who wants to bet that a week or two from now they “discover” it was 100 million accounts, and then eventually admit it was 200 million?


pxpx 2nd October 2018 09:00

relevant
https://www.usenix.org/conference/us.../ghasemisharif

pxpx 2nd October 2018 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxpx (Post 2004478)

in twitter thread form:
https://twitter.com/jpolakis/status/1046086964410294272

Nich 17th October 2018 16:16

YouTube is down worldwide as they try to scrub the NPC Wojak meme from the internet.

Lightspeed 17th October 2018 16:34

Mah monetizations!

Ab 25th October 2018 14:37

Amen Tim.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/24/ap...trial-complex/

Ab 30th October 2018 22:18

Read

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article..._medium=iosapp

Deadmeat 1st November 2018 17:33

But taking likes away from twitter should fix it right?

Ab 1st November 2018 19:05

that's some gamechanging thought leadership alt right


oops I mean all right

[Malks] Pixie 1st November 2018 19:57

Yep. Twitter seem to still think they're managing a communications network which is, errr, concerning.

Lightspeed 1st November 2018 21:00

The problem I have with the idea this thread purports is that everything that is fucked up was fucked up before social media. Sure, social media enables a lot that previously was difficult. But that's across the board. Whether it's psychopaths, SJWs or nihilists, the compassionate, concerned or insightful, we all enjoy the same advantages social media brings.

Making out that the fucked up shit we're able to see that was previously obscured is a problem of social media makes it seems like the solution is to fix social media. The absurdity of which we're on commenting right now.

The problem is the grim shit that's been going on forever. The powerful acting powerfully and the weak identifying with the aggressor.

The Nazis didn't need no social media to get their groove on. What were the ingredients back then? A desperate situation to feed resentment and the willingness to put in more work than those who would oppose them?

[Malks] Pixie 1st November 2018 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed (Post 2004954)
The Nazis didn't need no social media to get their groove on.

The Nazis are literally credited with the first ever mass media spectacle (the Berlin Olympics) - they "got their groove on" as you so eloquently put it, by utilising new communications media of the time (TV). They spread their propaganda and leveraged a lack of media literacy in the new formats. They solidified this with more traditional formats of radio (which had wider reach but less impact) and print to capture a wider section of the population. Media, particularly new media (for the time), we absolutely critical in their ability to build support.

Is any of this sounding at all similar to some of the situations we are seeing now?


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